lamenter84 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 In the command benefits there is company support (2 demi companies get dedictated transports for free) there is SUPREME FIRE DISCIPLINE (unless jinking all models in this formation that have grim resolve S/R fire over watch using their NORMAL B/S) haven't seen anyone comment on this..... just the normal fire discipline (which is B/S 2 over watch) I would imagine that this effects all units in lions blade strike force that have grim resolve. Seems crazy strong especially with the 2 different raven wing choices Or am I mistaken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Every model that belongs to a Demi-Company formation, so the whole Lion Blade will get Supreme fire discipline, so yes, Full BS overwatch for everyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberame Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Grim resolve = overwatch at bs2 Fire discipline (from just a demi company)= bs3 Supreme fire discipline (lion blade strike force)=full bs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flam Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Oh wow, I just took a quick look and it does say "using their normal" bs. I was under the impression it was bs4. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is why I've been taking the RW support squadron as my aux choice in the lion's blade. It gets to overwatch against a charging unit withing 24" at BS5. That's on heck of an assault deterrent! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhoenix Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is why I've been taking the RW support squadron as my aux choice in the lion's blade. It gets to overwatch against a charging unit withing 24" at BS5. That's on heck of an assault deterrent! Yep, but don't forget that "Ravenshield" rule work only if enemy unit declares a charge agains your unit with "Ravenwing" rule. So in Lion's Blade this rule work only if enemy charges RW attack squadron. I doubt that this rule work if enemy charge formation itself (but I could wrong about this). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormxlr Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is why I've been taking the RW support squadron as my aux choice in the lion's blade. It gets to overwatch against a charging unit withing 24" at BS5. That's on heck of an assault deterrent! Yep, but don't forget that "Ravenshield" rule work only if enemy unit declares a charge agains your unit with "Ravenwing" rule. So in Lion's Blade this rule work only if enemy charges RW attack squadron. I doubt that this rule work if enemy charge formation itself (but I could wrong about this). Nope you are right , it only works for friendly models with ravenwing rule. So if you take Lionsblade with RWSS only RWSS can use ravenshield on themselves since there are no other units with RW special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple of Caliban Sgt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So if I take a demi company and one auxillary I receive supreme fire discipline? Sorry a bit slow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Supreme fire discipline is only when you take 2 demi to form a battle company. 1 demi only gives you +1 to the normal bonus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Supreme fire discipline is only when you take 2 demi to form a battle company. 1 demi only gives you +1 to the normal bonus I'm not sure that's right. As I read it the Supreme fire disapline rule is from the lions blade so you need 1 core and 1 auxiliary and units in both get it. Taking 2 core gives you the free transports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Too late, but just as JJD said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 This is why I've been taking the RW support squadron as my aux choice in the lion's blade. It gets to overwatch against a charging unit withing 24" at BS5. That's on heck of an assault deterrent! Yep, but don't forget that "Ravenshield" rule work only if enemy unit declares a charge agains your unit with "Ravenwing" rule. So in Lion's Blade this rule work only if enemy charges RW attack squadron. That's true, I neglected to mention that part. I generally run my lion's blad with a lot of RW support so I tend to forget about the greenies. I doubt that this rule work if enemy charge formation itself (but I could wrong about this). I don't see why it wouldn't. The formation has the RW special rule, and is within 24" of itself. There is also no mention that it is exempt from using the ravenshield on itself. The only thing that I see that needs to be kept in mind is that LoS is drawn from the weapons on the vehicles, so someone flanking or coming up the rear may be safe from the overwatch. Supreme fire discipline is only when you take 2 demi to form a battle company. 1 demi only gives you +1 to the normal bonus Supreme fire discipline is for the lion's blade. To run a lion's blade, you just need one core and one aux. so one demi company plus an aux choice still gets the overwatch on full BS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disciple of Caliban Sgt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So Demi Company of awesome then some kind of aux formation and you should get full BS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4117931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkn3ssF4lls Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Taking two Demi's with one a CM and the other a Librarian ? i think it was gives you free transports essentially but everyone gets the supreme fire discipline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4118003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Taking two Demi's with one a CM and the other a Librarian ? i think it was gives you free transports essentially but everyone gets the supreme fire discipline. 1 chaplain, not librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4118058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_WarM Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Grim resolve = overwatch at bs2 Fire discipline (from just a demi company)= bs3 Supreme fire discipline (lion blade strike force)=full bs I wasn't sure either. Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4118605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Taking two Demi's with one a CM and the other a Librarian ? i think it was gives you free transports essentially but everyone gets the supreme fire discipline. 1 chaplain, not librarian.Yes but if you take 2 demi companies you can take 2 command units (1 per each core) so you can have 2 librarians... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4119073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkn3ssF4lls Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Why would you take two and miss out on free transports ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4119087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elios Harg Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 You have to take two demi companies to get the free transports. Then you can take 0-1 inner circles per demi-company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310811-supreme-fire-discipline/#findComment-4119261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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