Joe Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hey all. I was just wondering what people would recommend airbrush-wise for the hobby? I'm on a limited budget (£20-30), so I'm a bit worried that if I pick one out myself I'll wind up buying a mail order bride or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Depends on what you want to do with that airbrush. But honestly i think your budget wouldnt be sufficiant to get into airbrushing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daevyll Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 To be honest my friend, if you are limited to 20-30 quid then you're better off not getting an airbrush and saving up intil you can afford a half-decent one. You don't really get a proper entry-level double action airbrush for much less then 50, and then you'd need another 80 at least for a compressor. Don't fall into the trap of buying a single action airbrush, and don't get one of those chinese things.. it'll end in frustration, believe me. Save up a little more then get something like an entry level H&S in a starter kit with some paints and cleaning equipment, and perhaps a Werther compressor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Haggis Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Sorry to Jump on this Thread, but i am in the market for an Airbrush, I have about £150 to £200 but could stretch to £300. I have used an Airbrush before, and i am looking for something to last me , that i am not having to replace 6months to a year later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 I have a compressor already; I'll save up some more cash for a decent airbrush in that case. Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 OP: that price point just isn't realistic, tbh. Something like £150-200 to get on board is needed. Wee Hagis: I'm looking to treat myself soonish and like the look, and reviews, of either the H&S Evolution AL + two-in-one or the Infinity. I enjoyed the Ultra and see no reason why their higher end stuff wouldn't be great. Edit: just seen the new post. For a good entry level I'd say an Iwata Neo or an H&S Ultra is perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geektom Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Thanks, gents. I am in the same spot. Looks like we sell the Iwata and H&S here in the states, too-- appreciate the suggestion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daevyll Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I have an H&S Ultra myself, which is a fine airbrush. It is also sold as the CX-1 as part of a starter bundle, but it is physically identical to the H&S (and comes with their warranty). If I lived in the US I'd have a good look at Badger too, their Airbrushes and support are supposedly very good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geektom Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Thanks! It is confusing because there are so many different models from each manufacturer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4117757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Haggis Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 thanks for the help, i will look at all the options ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Haggis Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 OP: that price point just isn't realistic, tbh. Something like £150-200 to get on board is needed. Wee Hagis: I'm looking to treat myself soonish and like the look, and reviews, of either the H&S Evolution AL + two-in-one or the Infinity. I enjoyed the Ultra and see no reason why their higher end stuff wouldn't be great. Edit: just seen the new post. For a good entry level I'd say an Iwata Neo or an H&S Ultra is perfect. I am looking at the H&S Ultra to get me started. What would be list of materials outside paint, that i require to have a working Airbrush. (i.e. hoses, compressor). Just so i get everything that is compatible?? I Found this on Ebay, this look like a good start? Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Find Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Airbrush on eBay in the category Crafts>Painting, Drawing & Art>Painting Supplies>Airbrushes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daevyll Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 OP: that price point just isn't realistic, tbh. Something like £150-200 to get on board is needed. Wee Hagis: I'm looking to treat myself soonish and like the look, and reviews, of either the H&S Evolution AL + two-in-one or the Infinity. I enjoyed the Ultra and see no reason why their higher end stuff wouldn't be great. Edit: just seen the new post. For a good entry level I'd say an Iwata Neo or an H&S Ultra is perfect. I am looking at the H&S Ultra to get me started. What would be list of materials outside paint, that i require to have a working Airbrush. (i.e. hoses, compressor). Just so i get everything that is compatible?? I Found this on Ebay, this look like a good start? Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Find Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Airbrush on eBay in the category Crafts>Painting, Drawing & Art>Painting Supplies>Airbrushes. Looks good to me. The airbrush itself is fine if it is indeed a genuine H&S. You might want to check what size needle it comes with too. The compressor looks like a TC108 membrane type with tank which is fine too. Other than this you really need only basic supplies: - paints, obviously. Do yourself a favor and get dedicated airbrush paints, you don't need the hassle of thinning and straining the learning curve is steep enough as it is - cleaner/thinner - cleaning brushes. I use dental between-the-teeth brushes myself - masking tape. Don't use the DIY kind but get actual airbrush tape - breathing mask Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Haggis Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 OP: that price point just isn't realistic, tbh. Something like £150-200 to get on board is needed. Wee Hagis: I'm looking to treat myself soonish and like the look, and reviews, of either the H&S Evolution AL + two-in-one or the Infinity. I enjoyed the Ultra and see no reason why their higher end stuff wouldn't be great. Edit: just seen the new post. For a good entry level I'd say an Iwata Neo or an H&S Ultra is perfect. I am looking at the H&S Ultra to get me started. What would be list of materials outside paint, that i require to have a working Airbrush. (i.e. hoses, compressor). Just so i get everything that is compatible?? I Found this on Ebay, this look like a good start? Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Find Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Airbrush on eBay in the category Crafts>Painting, Drawing & Art>Painting Supplies>Airbrushes. Looks good to me. The airbrush itself is fine if it is indeed a genuine H&S. You might want to check what size needle it comes with too. The compressor looks like a TC108 membrane type with tank which is fine too. Other than this you really need only basic supplies: - paints, obviously. Do yourself a favor and get dedicated airbrush paints, you don't need the hassle of thinning and straining the learning curve is steep enough as it is - cleaner/thinner - cleaning brushes. I use dental between-the-teeth brushes myself - masking tape. Don't use the DIY kind but get actual airbrush tape - breathing mask 0.2MM Nozzle fitted and 0.4MM needle/nozzle included. Do i require other nozzles?? Can you recommend a paint supplier? I will be painting Battleplates Buildings and Space wolves with it? Thank you for the list other items, looking forward to having a go ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's similar to my set up, so would say go for it. Be aware though that the compressor isn't meant for all day sessions or heavy use; sessions of 30-60minutes are fine though. The .4 needle is a great all rounder and having the .2 for super fine detail is very nice to have. You probably won't need any other needle size, IMO. Needles are not for the heavy handed nor clumsy, you have been warned! Vallejo's Model Air range are used by many, and you can start using colours from other ranges once you've sussed consistencies etc. I've bought from Everything Airbrush and found them to be excellent, btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daevyll Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 OP: that price point just isn't realistic, tbh. Something like £150-200 to get on board is needed. Wee Hagis: I'm looking to treat myself soonish and like the look, and reviews, of either the H&S Evolution AL + two-in-one or the Infinity. I enjoyed the Ultra and see no reason why their higher end stuff wouldn't be great. Edit: just seen the new post. For a good entry level I'd say an Iwata Neo or an H&S Ultra is perfect. I am looking at the H&S Ultra to get me started. What would be list of materials outside paint, that i require to have a working Airbrush. (i.e. hoses, compressor). Just so i get everything that is compatible?? I Found this on Ebay, this look like a good start? Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Find Piston Compressor With 3 Litre Tank + Harder & Steenbeck Ultra 2 In 1 Airbrush on eBay in the category Crafts>Painting, Drawing & Art>Painting Supplies>Airbrushes. Looks good to me. The airbrush itself is fine if it is indeed a genuine H&S. You might want to check what size needle it comes with too. The compressor looks like a TC108 membrane type with tank which is fine too. Other than this you really need only basic supplies: - paints, obviously. Do yourself a favor and get dedicated airbrush paints, you don't need the hassle of thinning and straining the learning curve is steep enough as it is - cleaner/thinner - cleaning brushes. I use dental between-the-teeth brushes myself - masking tape. Don't use the DIY kind but get actual airbrush tape - breathing mask 0.2MM Nozzle fitted and 0.4MM needle/nozzle included. Do i require other nozzles?? Can you recommend a paint supplier? I will be painting Battleplates Buildings and Space wolves with it? Thank you for the list other items, looking forward to having a go ;-) Those 2 sizes will let you do a lot, no need to get others to get started. As for paints, I'd go for either Minitaire or Vallejo model Air. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4118960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I started with an eBay bundle of airbrush and compressor for £80. The airbrush I think you can buy for about 20 quid on its own. It was double action and served me well for learning. I have since upgraded to an h&s ultra which cost me about £80 and wish I had done it sooner as it is so much nicer and easier to clean. A cheaply will do you for a few months while you save for an ultra or something similar Edit: just re-read and yeah that setup is exactly what I run. I find the compressor fine for long sessions however it can get hot so don't put it in anything. The needles in the ultra come with nozzles and tbh I only ever use one anyway really. Also: I can't stress a breathing mask enough, not a crapy dust mask but a proper respirator with organic partial filters as well as protecting against fumes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4119149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosey_j Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Right on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4119161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Haggis Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks folks, I bought the setup i posted, and i will look into the paints this weekend. Many thanks for the help. I will post the results Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4119406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormxlr Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 To be honest my friend, if you are limited to 20-30 quid then you're better off not getting an airbrush and saving up intil you can afford a half-decent one. You don't really get a proper entry-level double action airbrush for much less then 50, and then you'd need another 80 at least for a compressor. Don't fall into the trap of buying a single action airbrush, and don't get one of those chinese things.. it'll end in frustration, believe me. Save up a little more then get something like an entry level H&S in a starter kit with some paints and cleaning equipment, and perhaps a Werther compressor. Well... most airbrushes are made in china and then are just rebranded afaik or at least their parts are made in china, put together somewhere else and branded. I know some airbrushes are made in japan but they still purchase almost all of the parts in china. http://taleofpainters.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/review-rdg-tools-airbrush-and.html check his review. This RDG guys are literally just importing chinese airbrushes sans the middleman. and here is an airbrush http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.1997196601.322.1rezsw&id=16105802153 205 rmb so like 22 UK pounds. All compressors are also made in china or again the parts are made there and are just put together somewhere else and branded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4119650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 If he already has a good compressor, that's easily 50-75% of the cost of airbrushing out of the way. The compressor is more important when getting started, IMO. You want to get the best one you can afford that has the right features and keep using that one. You can use a cheap $20 Chinese airbrush for basecoating in the meantime while you save up for something like a mid-range Badger or Iwata that most airbrushers use. You don't really need to get the ultra high-end brushes until you are a competition quality painter and freehander. The midrange brushes can be bought for as cheap as $100, will accept all the same stuff that the high end ones do, and the trigger action, features, and precision are much smoother and better than the Chinese knockoffs which is the most important part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310825-airbrushing/#findComment-4120326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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