Carraigf Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So Vel'Cona tipped me off on Vallejo's big bottles of primer and it got me thinking - as most of us have a mix of infantry and some tanks, if not flyers and artillery - what does everyone use for priming models - is it different tools for different jobs or is the a single approach that works well for both? I've always used citadel sprays - but I've seen lots of tutorials that promote airbrushing - for both tanks and infantry - while the cost is high to buy in the results can be pretty stellar. That said bottled primer - while time consuming - looks to be a very cheap option - and all you need to change is the size of your brush. What's your thoughts guardsmen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 GW chaos black spray for everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4117953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarHughes Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I may screw around with the white spray eventually for guard, but right now everything is done in chaos black. the spray can is worth the added cost unless you live on the ocean and don't get dry days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4117996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunmonkey88 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I go to Home Depot and get the 99 cent flat black spray paint, I've never had a problem with it and it's dirt cheap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I use GW's White Spray, as it helps with making colours warmer and more vibrant. If you're doing a darker colour scheme, black is a better start, and more forgiving if you miss recesses during the paintjob. Tried Army Painter, and while they're cheaper, you really notice it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I thought you lost, Brother Carraigf! Although I have been away from base for a bit myself... Anyway, good to see you ! I use GW's Chaos Black for just about everything. The only reason I use their Skull White (or Corax White it seems) is for my Heresy Era Death Guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I use black primer for everything. I tried using GW's colored sprays, but they just didn't come out right, so it's black from this point on. GW's black is pretty good, it's a more matte finish that seems to take paint much better than the army painter, but leaves much to be desired in the way of price, GW is real proud of their , and I have to say that I find that annoying. I have tried flat black spray paint, and it's not ever really worked out the way primer has. I've not had an issue with the army painter, so I'll get that when I can, but I'll get GW black when I need to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendaen Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 My whole army is painted in shades of grey. All the models get primed black on the sprue using Home Depot 99¢ Flat Black spray paint. After assembly, they get a coat of Tamiyo German Grey spray paint. I then paint the high lights, skin areas, different shades of brown for any leather pieces, and Nulin Oil wash on everything. They come out looking great.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismogrendel Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I use an airbrush and vallejo white primer. I got the $90 ebay special airbrush... it has worked great so far. I live in the south, lately the humidity is awful and I couldn't get a good coat on my models with spray cans.Before the airbrush, I was using army painter dragon red spray. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Thank God I live in Knoxville, the higher elevation and thus, relatively low humidity has been nice... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Skull White spray for infantry, Chaos Black for armour. Black is the best usually, but white is better for lighter tones. I'm not sure if I need the white for my troops, as it was for their original scheme which has long been replaced but best not mess with it as it works ok! The trick is to remember that you're priming the model for paint layers, not necessarily painting it that particular colour - especially with white sprays which can be a bit inferior. Always shake the can like you mean it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'd warn you to stay away from GW's white primer (at least if you're in the US) as it's been consistently poop. It tends to turn to snow, unless you're priming on the dryest day of winter, you know the kind of day that you walk outside and your eyes and lips and nose just dry up, and breathing makes you thirsty. That seems to be the only time I have seen GW's white primer work. But I've been living in the Southeast United States so your mileage may vary... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Stuff works fine for me, and I live near the sea. Still, I shake the heck out of it for 60 seconds to make sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Army Painter Black primer for everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeliske Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Anything under the blue spectrum I use black. Anything under the yellow spectrum I use white. Anything under red can go either way depending on what your looking for as a finished product. Ultimately it depends completely on what your doing with it and of course preferences but that's my general rule of thumb. Personally when I first started I hand primed, this is the fastest method to get painting but I always found it obscured a lot of detail, that was a personal issue though as I just wasn't very good. I switched to spray primers (GW and AP) and found a much more even coating but you want to wait a minimum 4 hours for setting and probably closer to 6-8 for curing and it must be done outdoors, though I havn't had any issues with humidity or temperature (I live in the prairies and it goes +40- -40 every year). Now I use my air brush and do whatever damn color I want. This is the cheapest method (eventually) and has the bonuses of drying quickly and I can do it indoors (though I have to be wary of overspray... my poor coffee table looks like a million ants climbed onto it and puked and left) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carraigf Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm in sunny Dundee here in Scotland so our humidity tends to be more of the horizontal slashing rain variety but do struggle with gw spray hence the ask. Cheers for the feedback all, may experiment with the AP spray and the vallejo next time I'm online getting my hobby fix, thinking an airbrush would be a nice to have but for now I'll be spending my cash on more toys instead of tools. Thanks again all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The humidity is something that affects all sprays, sadly. Best of luck finding one that works for you, though. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 When I painted some Catachans years ago I think I used white for the Troops and black for the Basilisk - but then I was very, very young. If I were to paint anything new today, I'd probably use Halfords' grey as it gives the right level of shading to begin with and Halfords offer a good spray that is cheaper than GW's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morroccomole Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I prime my troops in white, since their uniforms under the flak armor is white. I just carefully paint the details & give them a wash, and it's a good chunk of time I've saved. If the bulk of your model is going to be painted a certain color, I suggest priming it in that color, and going from there. That said, I just try to get my stuff table ready, and I don't worry too much about little imperfections. After all, who's going to notice a bit of black belt bleeding into a white uniform, when there's 200 models on the table? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I use Halfords grey primer for everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4118989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm old school. I hand prime all of my models, from Knights, to tanks and troops. It's really not that bad :) I use Abaddon Black as my primer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4119024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 As Carraigf said above, my latest kick is to hand brush Vallejo's bottled primer with a large brush and a bit of water. I get surprisingly consistent results and from what I understand it's safe to use indoors. It even has a nice menthol scent! For spray primer, I've been through quite a few. I've tried Army Painter, Armoury, Citadel, and Testors. For my money, the best spray on primer is actually the P3 brand; it's not ridiculously priced, and it gives an absolutely immaculate finish as long as the weather is reasonably cooperative. That said, now that I've discovered Vallejo's products in general I'm starting to slowly morph my supplies to their product. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4119057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I wish Vallejo were easier to come by this side of the pond. I also wish a company did a spray close enough to my "Tarosian Sunset" colour I use to just blast my army with. xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4119107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I wish Vallejo were easier to come by this side of the pond. I also wish a company did a spray close enough to my "Tarosian Sunset" colour I use to just blast my army with. xD Try Tamiya. They have a wide range of colours. Maybe TS-3 Dark Yellow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4119376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraRich Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I do all mine in halfords grey For the cost of the can of that size its great. Its also a good base for the light colours I paint my guard Just make sure you buy the matt primer and not grey paint Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310862-best-approach-for-priming-guard/#findComment-4119691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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