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After some considerations, conficting emotions, and internal debate, I have decided to decend down the dark path of creating a Horus Heresy Battalion of Imperial Fist. This will also be my first foray into the realm of playing an Imperial army as well. Yes, I am a dirty Xenos, a Dark Eldar player with Eldar Corsair and Harlequin allies who wanted to try an army with a much different feel.

 

After read up on the Horus Heresy, looking at the legions, their personalities and thinking what would actually fit my personality the most, I have come to the conclusion that the VIIth Legion would be the ones to collect. The collection of this army, will of course take time. Forgeworld is not cheap and to save myself money I plan on buying in large enough quantaties to make sure I'm getting free shipping (I'm in the U.S.A.).

 

To begin I will be making the following purchase:

 

1x MKIII Command Set

2x MKIII Mechanized Tactical Squad

2x Imperial Fist Squad Upgrade Set

1x Legion Command Upgrade Set

1x Deredeo Pattern Dreadnaught

1x Anvilus Autocannon battery

1x Aiolos Missile Launcher

1x Hellfire Plasma Cannon

 

This will give me 20 Tactical Marines, 2 Deimos Rhinos, and a Deredeo Pattern Dreadnaught to begin with. I'll use the MKIII Command model with the sword as my Centurion.

 

By the time I finish collecting the force I intend to have a force that will provide flexibility in movement, offense, and defense. I even plan on purchasing a Callestrum eventually, we are after all the Imperial Fist.

 

I do have some questions:

 

I plan on purchasing two Land Raiders in the future to be deidcated transports for some Breacher Squads. Is there a reason that I should buy the Land Raider Proteus over the Land Raider Armored Proteus? I like the look of the Armored Proteus better but I also want the equipment to be period appropriate and don't know if the Armored is a later configuration.

 

I also would like to have a Forge Lord later but could find no Forgeworld model for it, nor could I find one for the Servo-Automata. Do they not have models at this time or did I just miss them on the website?

 

Thanks for your time,

Legionaire of the VIIth

Armored proteus is fine- may be better for a group of seekers or a vet squad as Breachers are great objective campers. Also remember the Achilles as it was designed by the VIIth for bunker busting- maybe sigismund and a command squad or Templar squad to wreck face.

Think about the IF command squad as they as boss, the phalanx and Templar upgrades are really sweet and full of detail!

Glad you are a treadhead as the HH provides us with a slew of fun big tanks if you'd like.

I'd look at the Deimos laser destructor or the venerator for big AT, the deredero is pretty rad at AA and AI. I'd personally stay away from heavy weapon squads and look at tactical support squads if there is a specialist roll you like more than others(I run a flamer squad for template love piling out of a rhino)... Otherwise find your favorite flavor of yellow and start practicing:)

Our bolter drills are your friend and will lay waste to other 30k tactical marines in an even matchup... This is the world of 20man blocks of tacticals...

Thanks for the information guys.

 

@Kriegriss Good to hear that they are coming out with a Techmarine for Horus Heresy.

 

@lionofjudah I had planned on forgoing heavy support squads, I would rather use the heavy support slot for heavy support vehicles. I do plan on running a couple squads of Tactical Support Squads.

 

My plan was to run a Talon of 2-3 Contemptor Dreadnaughts, would Templar be a better use for the elite slot?

 

I also plan on creating a command squad for them.

Thanks for the information guys.

 

@Kriegriss Good to hear that they are coming out with a Techmarine for Horus Heresy.

 

@lionofjudah I had planned on forgoing heavy support squads, I would rather use the heavy support slot for heavy support vehicles. I do plan on running a couple squads of Tactical Support Squads.

 

My plan was to run a Talon of 2-3 Contemptor Dreadnaughts, would Templar be a better use for the elite slot?

 

I also plan on creating a command squad for them.

Sigismund Makes Templars Troops and we have 4 Elite Slots. Also, a Talon of 3 Contemptors takes only 1 Slot.

I hadn't looked over Sigismund's rules close enough appartently so I missed that (actually I hadn't really look at any of the named HQ until now), thanks for pointing that out. Could you point me to the page and book that says we have 4 elites slots I'm having trouble locating it. I should add that the army I've been planning out is based off of the Age of Darkeness force orginization chart.

 

I was aware that a Talon only takes up 1 elite slot but I was thinking of field a Terminator Squad and apothicaries. I can see how my comment would make it sound that I thought I was using more than one slot for the Talon.

 

Thanks for the responses,

Legionaire of the VIIth

I haven't looked over Sigismund's rules close enough appartently so I missed that (actually I hadn't really look at any of the named HQ until now), thanks for pointing that out. Could you point me to the page and book that says we have 4 elites slots I'm having trouble locating it. I should add that the army I've been planning out is based off of the Age of Darkeness force orginization chart.

 

I was aware that a Talon only takes up 1 elite slot but I was thinking of field a Terminator Squad and apothicaries.

 

Thanks for the responses,

Legionaire of the VIIth

Look at the "Games in the Age of Darkness" section and look closely at the FoC chart Presented. Main differences are 3 HQ and 4 Elites.

Thanks for the help Slipstream, I found it. I feel a bit stupid now as it was right there in front of my face, not sure why I kept over looking it despite the chart showing 4 and it stating in plain english 4... It's even in two of the books!

Thanks for the help Slipstream, I found it. I feel a bit stupid now as it was right there in front of my face, not sure why I kept over looking it despite the chart showing 4 and it stating in plain english 4... It's even in two of the books!

Its because its so familiar that you dont really look for differences :p

So after taking into consideration what you guys mentioned, and looking at the options available to the Imperial Fist, this is a list of what I plan to collect over time for my Combined Arms Battalion:

 

HQ (1-3)

1x Praetorian

1x Forge Lord +4 Servo-Automata [should they finally come out with a model for them]

 

Troops (6)

2x 10 Legion MKIII Tactical Squads

---2x Deimos Pattern Rhinos Armored Carrier

2x 10 Legion MKIII Tactical Support Squads

---2x Deimos Pattern Rhinos Armored Carrier

2x 20 Legion MKII Tactical Squads

 

Elites (4)

1x 3 Imperial Fist Contemptor Dreadnaughts

2x 10 Templar

---2x MKIIB Phobos Pattern Land Raider

1x 2 Apothecary

 

Fast Attack (3)

2x 1 Legion Storm Eagle Gunship

1x 10 Seeker Squad

---1x Armored Proteus Pattern Land Raider

 

Heavy Support (3)

2x Deredeo Pattern Dreadnaught

1x Achilles-Alpha Pattern Land Raider

 

Lord of War (1)

Legion Glaive Super Heavy Tank

 

Fortification (1)

Space Marine Castellum

 

I think that this will give me a good basis to work with when building lists of different point values. Let me know what you think.

 

Edit: I should also note I'm not a particularly competitive player.

 

Thank you for taking the time to read my post,

Legionaire of the VIIth

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