Desandi Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I want to start building a 30k force, would appreciate any suggestions. HQ Autilon Skorr Troops Legion Tactical Squad 10 chainswords legion vexilla Sergeant artificer armour power axe melta bombs Rhino dozer blade Legion Tactical Squad 10 chainswords legion vexilla Sergeant artificer armour power axe melta bombs Rhino dozer blade Elites Legion Terminator Squad thunder hammer banestrike ammo Heavy Support Deredeo Pattern Dreadnaught aiolos missile launcher Legion Heavy Support Squad 5 volkite culverin augury scanner Fast Attack Legion Seeker Squad 5 combi-plasma banestrike ammo Sergeant melta bomb Rhino dozer blade I know that 1500 is small for Legion lists but want to start building up to more while having something playable in the interim. I will be playing against bot 40k and 30k lists. Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Not bad, but I think you're a bit heavy on anti-infantry. And in 30k Terminators don't have Deep Strike like the 40k ones, so they'll be foot-slogging across the board without a transport. Autlion Skorr has access to the Chosen Duty RoW, which makes Veterans into Troops. Seen as though you're giving your Tacticals chainswords anyway, maybe swap them for said Veterans? 10 Tacs with chainswords is 170 points vs. 10 Vets for 200 points (plus Vets get 2 Attacks, squad-wide Melta Bombs as an option, and Veteran Tactics). Giving them the Sniper USR makes them pretty good against infantry. This will allow you to swap the HSS for a dedicated anti-tank option, like Rapiers. Choosing Infiltrate for your Mutable Tactics will get them nicely postioned to destroy tanks! Deredeo is great for transports and medium tanks (plus the Marine-killing Aiolos launcher) - very good choice there. Also having those Seekers for a round of anti-TEQ is good too, but not sure I'd pay for the Banestrike on them (the Vets will do that better). Hope this helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/#findComment-4129120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I would NEVER pay for Banestrike on Seekers. They have the better Scorpius Ammo which is Rending/Shred but heavy 1. And If you give Tac Vets the Sniper USR, never give them Banestrike Either. The rest is Caillum has said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/#findComment-4129132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desandi Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thank you for the replies. It does make sense to use Chosen Duty. I was assuming I could either take the mutable tactic of infiltrate or if I only wanted it on 3 infantry Skorr can select infiltrate as his warlord trait freeing up my mutable tactic. Were you thinking of laser destroyer rapiers? What about this as an adaptation, a little less infantry killer focused: HQ Autillon Skorr master of the legion chosen duty ROW TROOPS Legion Veteran Tactical Squad 5 additional veteran tactical marines nunico-vox Sergeant artificer armour Rhino dozer blade Legion Veteran Tactical Squad 5 additional veteran tactical marines nunico-vox Sergeant artificer armour Rhino dozer blade ELITES Legion Terminator Squad thunder hammer banestrike ammo HEAVY SUPPORT Deredeo Pattern Dreadnaught aiolos missile launcher Legion Medusa twin-linked bolter FAST ATTACK Legion Seeker Squad 5 combi-plasma Sergeant melta bombs Rhino dozer blade I was thinking the Medusa, with its increased range and versatility could be better than 2 Laser Destroyer Rapiers. I am used to ATSKNF, making me unsure about giving up legion vexilla for nunico-vox, I can have both if I give up the Sergeant's artificer armour. This list has also had to give up on the 2 melta bombs in the troop slot. I felt that I am more likely to want to infiltrate the Seeker squad so though its smaller melta bombs would make sense on it, I guess 2 Laser Destroyer Rapiers instead of the Medusa would free up more points. What are others thoughts on this list? Have people found Rapiers superior to a Medusa against tanks? Thanks again for your help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/#findComment-4129245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Now I admit up front I've not used a Medusa but the Laser Destroyers are win in an AL list - the infiltrate really terrifies the opponent to the point that you're already winning the battle, most will adjust their battle plans to compensate for where you might o may place your infiltrating rapiers. When that happens you're already on the front foot. Medusas dont have LA:AL and so makes it easier to plan around, plus the short range (and I know it's the same range as laser destroyer but that's where infiltrate comes in) makes it easier to avoid. Not sure on points but if you can get 2/3 in for the price of a Medusa then go for it. Better still, try both out and see what works for you - but i'd be tempted with the rapiers personally unless you're maxing out that artillery battery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/#findComment-4129412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Nice lists! The second rocks! In my opinion the medusa is superior, able to kill tanks and terminators with ease both Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311477-starter-alpha-legion-1500-points/#findComment-4129431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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