Grifftofer Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 If you would be so kind gents, are these the legions defending the palace at the siege? Halcyon Wardens Fire Keepers Crimson Lions Wardens of Light Iron Bears Predators Sounds right. The Dune Serpents and the Void Eagles were trying to hold the flanks when the final assault came. Haven't the Predators already gone rogue at this point (I believe that was the final decision)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Predators defending the palace? I smell a conspiracy here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 I thought it was the Predator Loyalist remnant that was defending. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I am not sure but didn't the legion join Icarion as a whole and later they sitted and the ones who wanted to help mankind became blackshields and destroyed elfheim while the others became warbands? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Last I read was that the Predators suffer a schism/internal war just after the siege. But I may have dreamt that. I also forgot the Scions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 As we talk about the siege ( I know I know, we have other books to work on) who will defend luna, mars and the other planets? Who fight on the saturn shipyards? As the siege will not only have the siege as conflict but a lot of the others. Morthera fought on mars against the dark mech right? Or was.it on luna? Where will the other primarchs be? Will there be more.casualties among the.primarchs? In previous books maybe? Kawil dies, daer'dd dies, piinius becomes a megazord and alexos, raktra and koschei daemon primarchs while icarion becomes.something else. I just ask because of praetorian of dorn. They killed.one of the major characters.off and should we be brave enough to take such matters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Predators are attacking. About 90% of them. The rest (about one tribe is out there looking for the presumed dead Adewale, former second in command of the legion). This tribe will stay loyal but won't fight at Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Predators are attacking. About 90% of them. The rest (about one tribe is out there looking for the presumed dead Adewale, former second in command of the legion). This tribe will stay loyal but won't fight at Terra. Oh ok. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4512938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Grifft, I like that as a base for Faluak - I remember there was some talk of him and the Shamshir appropriating the invisibility technology from 63-19 in the canon verse, although I'm not sure what the final verdict was on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Ok. Invisibility is a tricky thing to pull off. It can't be anywhere near as powerful as the psychic power. As that is already horribly broken and needs to be activated successfully... Simply giving the unit Shrouding or a 'dodge-based' invulnerable save would probably work best. If not, a toned down Invisibility (Half WS/BS when targeting the unit) might be viable with a sufficiently major side effect and cost. I'll give it some more consideration. I have to say that Faluak might need some toning down depending on the solution we implement as he is already getting up there in cost. bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Ok. Invisibility is a tricky thing to pull off. It can't be anywhere near as powerful as the psychic power. As that is already horribly broken and needs to be activated successfully... Simply giving the unit Shrouding or a 'dodge-based' invulnerable save would probably work best. If not, a toned down Invisibility (Half WS/BS when targeting the unit) might be viable with a sufficiently major side effect and cost. I'll give it some more consideration. I have to say that Faluak might need some toning down depending on the solution we implement as he is already getting up there in cost. Look into the 30k Camo Cloak Relic, that might be a basis of inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't someone put together a cross reference for the different legion ranks/organization? My search fu is weak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 @Grifftofer: it might be a bit cheap, but you could just copy the rule from Tau Stealth Suits to represent the Shamshir's cloaking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't someone put together a cross reference for the different legion ranks/organization? My search fu is weak. Shazaaaaaam!!!https://framacalc.org/BotL Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I totally forgot we had that. Is it open to update, or do I need to ask someone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4513976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yes it is open. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) He doesn't hold a candle to Krautscientist's daemon version, that's for sure Whoops, replying to old post Dammit. This is the problem with not being able to compare the model directly. I really need to buy them all at some point... Oh well, just another thing to add to the list. @Raktra: I will say he's not my favourite and like most of the Primarchs I'm not the biggest fan of his face, but I also wish that Forgeworld had made helmets for the Primarchs as an option. Even so I look forward to seeing more of him. I'd love to see the Khan modelled with his dragon helm Edited September 25, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Home sweet home!!! Doctor Perils and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Reading Angels of Caliban, Gav Thorpe stole my idea of officers designating their successors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Woah. That orkoffspring¡¡¡ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 For the stories heading to 30k, do we simply re-the same format we've been using so far? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Seems sensible to me. The format works after all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Which story should we post first? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Would be cooll if we had them timeline sorted. So just starting from the great crusade until the bitter end^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I suggest you use the anthology timeline as a guide: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/326090-brotherhood-of-the-lost-an-anthology-in-progress/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/154/#findComment-4514408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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