Chief Captain Redd Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I think it would be completely reasonable if the Lightning Bearers are Ultramarine esque in numbers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 If we really wanted to push the boat out, the Lightning Bearers could be slightly larger than the Ultra's. That would go someway to evening out the numerical disparities. Incidentaly, I go back to the UK on a fairly regular basis so it would be more conveniant for me if it was there, cos I won't have the funds to go to the US for at least several more years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Also means this can end with a massive clash of the psychic divination legions that started us all off on this path. Never a bad thing to my mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The Eagle Warriors reach ultramarines size with like their clones and stuff (187K astartes +90K clones) Â BUT, the lightning bearers certainly could use a large number, 240-260K astartes most certainly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 And probably the Berzerkers of Uran(given their aggressive war style) ought to be a fairly large legion so they can soak up being shot to pieces. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I was gonna say something similar, with a slight difference - large-ish legion with a massively fluctuating average. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 An idea. We could have several campaign games in our respective corners of the world, instead of one big one in a central location. And we could have the campaign battles vaguely mirror a front in the Insurrection. Like the Australian game could represent what's going on in the Segmentum Tempestus, the US be Ultima, and the UK/Europe be Obscurus. Doctor Perils and Praefectus Invictus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 That sounds like a GREAT idea Simison, sounds like the crimson lions and berzerkers of Uran (Raktra's legion right?) will be buissy with some crazed eagle warriors ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 An idea. We could have several campaign games in our respective corners of the world, instead of one big one in a central location. And we could have the campaign battles vaguely mirror a front in the Insurrection. Like the Australian game could represent what's going on in the Segmentum Tempestus, the US be Ultima, and the UK/Europe be Obscurus. Yeah but who's actually going to want to come to the land where everything is trying to kill you ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015  An idea. We could have several campaign games in our respective corners of the world, instead of one big one in a central location. And we could have the campaign battles vaguely mirror a front in the Insurrection. Like the Australian game could represent what's going on in the Segmentum Tempestus, the US be Ultima, and the UK/Europe be Obscurus. Yeah but who's actually going to want to come to the land where everything is trying to kill you ?   Masochists, that's who. Praefectus Invictus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrun0riginal Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Hey gang, Mikhal just messaged me about the group, I had no idea! Â I tend to only keep to the WIP board, to be fair. Â But I'll throw my hat in, sounds fun! Â Â If no one minds, I'll nab the II legion, if possible? Â I'd like an early discovery for Encheleus, so he can try to interact with other Primarchs and fail. Â Â Also, I have finally decided on a Legion name: The Voidborn. Â Edited August 13, 2015 by mrun0riginal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 The II and XI legions are taken already, though I do like your enthusiasm. We do have several people who've offered multiple legions. You can ask them to withdraw and allow you a spot. Or, in the event someone drops out, we can put your legion in.  Gyah, I sound like a secretary. Big Bad Squig 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The II and XI legions are taken already, though I do like your enthusiasm. We do have several people who've offered multiple legions. You can ask them to withdraw and allow you a spot. Or, in the event someone drops out, we can put your legion in.  Gyah, I sound like a secretary. Simison, secretary of the BotL, keeper of (not many) secrets . I jest of course, without your efforts none of this would be happening. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 And it all started on a whim, no less. Â mrun, mind telling us what your legion specialties are? That could affect a couple of decisions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Hehe, seems he hadn't enough time to read through all 16 pages and side threads. Â One idea: what about the secessionist primarch? Isn't that a relatively free spot? He would die early on. But we could make a great story of him beeing killed. Â Actually: who is the secessionist? I find him on the primarch apperance list. But not on the primarch list. Edited August 13, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Hm. I don't know. Technically, there are 21 Primarchs in the canon-verse. But, there are still only 20 legions, even if the Ghost Walkers are slowly dying throughout the Great Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrun0riginal Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 And it all started on a whim, no less. Â mrun, mind telling us what your legion specialties are? That could affect a couple of decisions. Â My Legion is the Blank Legion. Â They tend to lean towards Void combat, and leave most of the ground work to humans. Â This is because they make everyone uncomfortable, as a group of them are psychic Nulls, and even those that aren't have some effect on other humans, causing friction. Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 We could have a Twin-Primarch situation but, instead of being in sync, they are diametrically opposed and that caused the legion to split in half? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrun0riginal Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 We could have a Twin-Primarch situation but, instead of being in sync, they are diametrically opposed and that caused the legion to split in half? Â That actually sounds pretty cool. Â I'd hate to impose on someone else's project, though. Â Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4145994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 If I could, I'd have everyone involved, but I don't want us to break too far from the original legion limit.  Now, I do like Slips' suggestion. Do we have any volunteers? Skal? The Voidborn sound like a natural fit with the Void Eagles, if you're willing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Well, pre-BotL ideas for the Void Eagles included the Terrans never really accepting the changes, rebelling, and eventually murdering Yucahu, with the original Legion Master using specially engineered armour to fight on the same level. Now, we can either just have a twin-primarch situation, or, more interestingly, the Terrans joining the Traitor (and eventually Revolutionary) side, the Legion Master subjecting himself willingly to augmentation and "blank-ification" to get his revenge. Another thing to note is that Yucahu is not voidborn, but was raised amongst sea-faring tribes on an archipelagic world, eventually developing airborne transportation, and spaceflight a few years before the Crusade reached it. If we take the twin-primarch road, the Voidborn could be one to turn to piracy while Yucahu leads regular navies, both pre- and post- coming of the Emperor. Â Ultimately Mrun, it's up to you. Edited August 13, 2015 by Skalpynock Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Would it be possible for me to revise my estimate of how large the Lions are at the start of the heresy? I ask because for them to have stayed at 130.000 for the past 100 years seens a bit odd. My revised estimate would be around 150-170.000 marines, with 60-80.000 on detached duty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Hmmm splitting between terrans and non terrams would be the same as we already have in the end of the insurrection and would take the impact away. Â And yes....I can't sleep Edited August 14, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 So, I was wondering, with the specialty threads and the legion threads dedicated for this continuity, should we ask the mods to create a sub-forum for this project? I've never done anything before that got this big on a forum and don't know the guidelines or the protocol for such a thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's probably worth asking, as it keeps our things together and out of the way of anyone who isn't interested. But I have no idea what the process for doing that would be either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/16/#findComment-4146427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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