bluntblade Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Could be interesting. And you never know, GW might end up paying us for doing their work for them :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I thought that the Vindicator with the Laser Destroyer Array was supposed to be a nod to the Sabre? Not saying that I wouldn't like to see alternative main weapons options for the Vindicator though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Yeah it's pretty close, but I'd still like to see it's fully anti armored Battle cannon version, and I think the other two would would be fething awesome if albeit expensive to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hello gentlemen and ladies. I was thinking about vehicles legions use in fluff but we haven't seen rules for yet, so it got me pondering What of the Sabre? I'd love to see it and I think a thunderfire cannon variation and an Avenger Gatling cannon variant would both be amazing and all three serve very different rolls. Thoughts? Are you proposing the Sabre and variants with thunderfire cannon and avenger gatling cannon? Bear in mind the sabre also has two variants with neutrino laser or vanquisher cannon. Somehow, I think the Laser destroyer array vindicator should be relabeled as a Sabre variant, not a vindicator variant, their roles are too dissimilar. A thunderfire cannon as Vindicator variant is a nice idea, though I don't think it fits in the 30k timeline. A Quad-mortar Vindicator on the other hand would be rather awesome. Finally, wouldn't the Avenger cannon be more suited as a main turret weapon for a Predator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Sorry for the potential de-rail, but I have two new units up on the Mechanicum Abyssii thread that I could use some feedback on, and some ideas r/e other potential units and an idea for balancing Mortera that I'm presently unsure on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 @thørn I forgot about those variants of the Sabre but now that the Neutrino laser is on both a Sicarian and Malcador chassis I don't think it's fully necessary. And the Avenger Gatling Cannon is a Knight mounted weapon so I think it's more suited to the big hull mount opposed to a turret mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 @thørn I forgot about those variants of the Sabre but now that the Neutrino laser is on both a Sicarian and Malcador chassis I don't think it's fully necessary. And the Avenger Gatling Cannon is a Knight mounted weapon so I think it's more suited to the big hull mount opposed to a turret mount. It's Knight mounted when it's twin linked, same with the fire raptor - I could easily see a non-twin linked version on a pred. For the Neutrino Laser, there's even the cerberus (or the other spartan version), so you do have a point. However, I really love the Vanquisher ^_^ There's something about solid-shot weaponry that I really like over energy-based weapons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I'm so glad someone else shares my shell-based joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I to love me some super sonic brass and steel. Also are you sure you're not thinking of the Avenger Bolt Cannon? Because the Avenger Gatling Cannon is 36" str6 ap3 heavy 12, Rending aka the best Brrrrrt in the game. They're very similar I do confess. So variants would be -Battle Cannon -Vanquisher -Quadmortar -Avenger Gatling Cannon How would you feel about adding the Sabre Simi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ever though of Sonic weaponry? Not the EC piece of crap but as an artillery. Could be fun on a Vindicator for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 If you do want to do Sonic Artillery, then by the very nature of sound, it'd kinda work like a reverse Conversion Beamer unless you went Ordinatus with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Yeah but short range does sort of work in the style of a Vindicator. What about using the giant flamer template and have it be something like str5 ap- rending, concussive. It'd be great to pair with assault marines. We might also want to do a giant flamer weapon. Also maybe we should rearrange the vindicator/Saber entries so it'd be Vindicator -Demolisher Cannon -Avenger Gatling Cannon -Sonic weapon -Flamer weapon Sabre -Battle Cannon -Laser Destroyer -Vanquisher -Quadmortar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Someone mentioned beacons for the Astronomicon, and it occurs to me that those could tie into the Webway. Magnus, who was intended to at least help forge the links of the Webway, is no longer around to fulfill that role, so the Big E needs that power from elsewhere, right? Also, does anyone know how big the embarkation decks of a Gloriana Class ship are, and how many Astartes you could fit there? Edited October 17, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 About the beakons ask sigi. He imolemented them in a story so i guess he knows best of them or thought of how to create them etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 xD Had to read you post for three times until I understood that it doesn't have to do with the previous discussion, Blunt. :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Slips, can we re-pin the Here to Start thread? We've had one person skip the Index and get lost so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Someone mentioned beacons for the Astronomicon, and it occurs to me that those could tie into the Webway. Magnus, who was intended to at least help forge the links of the Webway, is no longer around to fulfill that role, so the Big E needs that power from elsewhere, right? Also, does anyone know how big the embarkation decks of a Gloriana Class ship are, and how many Astartes you could fit there? Never actually thought about what the beacons would do about the webway. I just thought of them as an interim measure meant to amplify the astronomicon until the Emperor's webway project was complete. @Mikhal: so the WoL might not have their primarch during the later parts of the Scouring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 @Mikhal: so the WoL might not have their primarch during the later parts of the Scouring? Before I forget, quick note, given Gwalchavad's actions, he is definitely our Lion of BotL in terms of questioned loyalty. For the theological concepts, I'm definitely going to write something to the effect that he appears to be two-faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 All this talk of Gwal's fate has caused a question to occur to me that I realise I have no clue about the answer to: how do the loyalist primarchs form up after Alex's death and the siege of Terra? Do they choose a new Warmaster or just charge forward into the Scouring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Well i had planned to have gwal leave as soon as terra/solar/imperium is secured. We jave yet to decide when this will be. And ambigous figures are always interesting. And the two faced thing fits to the masked man. Mask on and off^^ Hmm..when the battle is over I could see niklaas or hec leading the forces. New warmaster? Don't know. Could be that the remaining primarchs decide that this title will never be goven to anybody again to honor alex sacrifice. Maybe a council of the remaining primarchs and with direct votes? And if there is a tie they call forth someone from the council of terra? Edited October 17, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Not sure. The Emperor might have a few words before he's entombed. Actually, given the shorter period Malcador is on the Golden Throne, he might live for a few more seconds or minutes after his stint. What happens after Icarion commits seppuku? The word obviously spreads quickly...or does it? At the moment of Icarion's death, what is the state of the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Which Primarchs remain after Terra? Niklaas, (Redd, of course not Redd! I meant) Hec, Yucahu and Azus, right? Yeah, there should be a fifth voice to form a council. Edited October 17, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) And Hectarion. Also would Redd count as he is 'only' an Astartes? Edited October 17, 2016 by Grifftofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 redd is no primarch^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 ah man...I meant Hec ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts