simison Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 So, when are we going to come up with our Praevian list and what book should that info go into? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Sorry boss but what was the praevian list again? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 *Chuckling at the idea of Void Eagles automate gaining rad-furnace* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 It's a list of the rules that a Praevian Consuls passes over to it's Battle Automata bodyguard unit. Usually its a slightly modified version of one of the Legion's special rules. Â The issue with the list is that we need the Legion rules for each BotL Legion, assuming we intend to put them all in at once. We could split it up so that each book has the Praevian rules for the legions included in it I suppose Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 It's a list of the rules that a Praevian Consuls passes over to it's Battle Automata bodyguard unit. Usually its a slightly modified version of one of the Legion's special rules.  The issue with the list is that we need the Legion rules for each BotL Legion, assuming we intend to put them all in at once. We could split it up so that each book has the Praevian rules for the legions included in it I suppose  Except we don't have all the canon rules either. Perhaps the next book will show how a new Praevian legion specialty will be included? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Fair point. I'd also like to mention that I've been making a couple of additions to the Pariah special rule. Mostly to make it possible to make the Sisters Psychic Abomination rule. I understand that the 30k rules for them will be previewed in next months White Dwarf, so I will post something once those become available online, but I have some bits put together based on their 40k rules. ~Drakzilla~ and simison 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 "In the darkness of light a lie would be told. In the darkness of night a warrior would be bold. In the light of the day his anger would seep away, in the light of the day, the wise would say. A lion is to sleep, or fight the day away" Grifftofer, Kelborn, Big Bad Squig and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Oh wow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 some bad quality pics... But please, let me present you.. "The warmaster" Please click the pics for a better resolution ;) bluntblade and Demus Ragnok 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Been thinking about what might mark the point where certain parts of the Mechanicus really took against the Technocracy. I'm thinking either they realise that the Technocracy treat technology in a humanist way, seeing it as a product of the maker's ingenuity (if there's any spiritual aspect to it, then it's a pronounced regard for their forerunners). Alternatively their "Fabricator-Consul" might say "innovation" like it's not a dirty word. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Gonna go for a run, then finish my draft for the Shepherds and get one written for the Yellow-Eyed Sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4547948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Brothers, it's official. I've checked the Facebook message and his profile. Invictus has not answered and has not returned to B&C since late September. I'm afraid we must consider him Lost at this point.  Therefore, the Stygian Jackels and their Primarch, Willym Jackel are to be removed from our canon and replaced with a new legion.  As last time, our consideration for a replacement legion will take place in phases. Our Auxilia will get first choice. That includes Lord Thorn, Bluntblade, SanguiniusReborn, and Talonair. Unlike last time, we will not expand, until we've heard from each one of these four, so that no one is accidentally left out.  If all four reject the option, then we'll move onto Legion Allies, which is where I put Apologist. Mostly because I'm not sure if he fits the term Auxilia, but wanted to give him some kind of deference since he has been part of the project for a month or two now.  If he rejects the option, then we'll expand the offer to beyond the project. I'm already aware of two petitions from this 'ring', for lack of a better word. So, I doubt we will make it past this one, but if we do...  Then we'll consider a current Legionnaire's request for a second legion. No third legions.  Let the discussion begin! Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Crap, what a shame. :/ Â Right from the start, I don't desire a second legion. I don't have enough time to cover that as well. Though I do have an idea for a new legion which can be used. Â I'm for auxiliaries or someone new. Second or third legion should be the most desperate solution. Hope that we can solve this rather quick. Edited October 30, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Actually, while I'm at it, Skal and Squig, any desire to pass on one of your legions to someone else? Â And did the Leman Russ tank have a name before Russ was discovered? Edited October 30, 2016 by simison Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Actually, while I'm at it, Skal and Squig, any desire to pass on one of your legions to someone else? There's too much I need to write before I can safely transfer control of a legion yet (and the choice of which I'd relinquish is really hard). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016  Actually, while I'm at it, Skal and Squig, any desire to pass on one of your legions to someone else? There's too much I need to write before I can safely transfer control of a legion yet (and the choice of which I'd relinquish is really hard).   It's alright Skal, I'm not saying you have to give up a legion. I'm just asking if you want to give up a legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) I know, I know, but I still think it'd be a good idea to have to focus on only one legion. Â Concerning the tank, how about Daer'dd/Hec petition the Imperium to keep the name in a last memory to their brother? Edited October 30, 2016 by Skalpynock simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Damn Jackals. Â Why why why. We have to change so much Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Damn Jackals.  Why why why. We have to change so much  It is what it is. Considering how big our project is, it might be more impressive that we've had to change so little over a year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 So auxilias. Come forth and create something new. How about a gipsy legion^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 If it helps to make a decision, I got the idea of a steampunk Legion. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Sorry, I'm still not going to commit myself to a legion. I'm well aware of the level of commitment would be needed and the level of commitment you have all given the project, and, well, I'm just not ready for that. It wouldn't be fair for the project and it wouldn't be fair to you all.  I am prepared to give a bit of a helping hand for ideas and stuff though Steampunk could indeed be cool, but I think certain other members of the project (Sigismund, I mean Sigismund) will explode if we don't hear out a few more of their ideas for a legion ^^  Just to be sure: the Jackals were a loyalist legion right? Would that mean that the new legion would have to be loyalist too? Or could they be part of the Suzerainty? Or, thinking rrriiiiiight out of the box, they could be an entirely shattered legion even before the insurrection, allowing more people to do whatever they want with them? (although that would imply no new primarchs)  EDIT: Actually, we do need to keep the new primarch, to make Daer'dd's death more meaningful. However, he can still be exiled from his own legion :devil:     Otherwise, at one stage I was thinking a gunslinging cowboy primarch could be cool... I really don't know why, since I don't like cowboys, but Steampunk Cowboy legion has a certain ring to it Edited October 30, 2016 by Lord Thørn Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Jackal was an insurrectionists who abandoned the insurrection in order to built a pirate empire. One reason the wardens returned^^ now i need new bad guus who attacl refugee ships. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Jackals were traitors, attacked the Eagles during the Day of Revelation, as years passsed the Jackel got annoyed at Icarion repeating the same patterns as the Emperor and went blackshield, carving their own kingdom on the fringes, and their primarch was the only one still alive and non-daemon by M41 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Jackels are Traitors turned Renegades, so they offer plenty of flexibility as for as allegiances. Even then, I think we might be able to handle a potentially Loyalist Legion. The sheer amount of defections from the Loyalist legions really gives Icarion an overwhelming advantage at the start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/171/#findComment-4548308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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