~Drakzilla~ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Mars Alpha is just a specific pattern of Leman Russ though, just like there are Proteus pattern Land Raiders and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Mars Alpha is just a specific pattern of Leman Russ though, just like there are Proteus pattern Land Raiders and the like. You see, that's what I thought it was. Though it would be amusing to picture an Army regiment pinned down by Orks when the commander yells into the radio, "SEND IN THE MARTIANS!" And then a wave of tanks come over the hill. I did some research, but I can't tell you just how little info is out there. Ironically, the most informative link was a B&C thread started by our very own Demus. The two theories are that the Space Wolves found the STC or saved a forgeworld where it was mass produced. So, we have two questions to answer. One, which origin story do we choose? Two, which legion is given credit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Except the Proteus isn't a pattern in the same way as the Leman Russ. The Proteus is a separate variant with different wargear and options to a Phobos/Achilles. In the same way that a Leman Russ Executioner and Exterminator variants have different wargear. Leman Russ and Land Raider are the type. Executioner/Phobos are variants on that type rather than patterns. Edited November 2, 2016 by Grifftofer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I thought the Leman Russ was named after him while he was still an Imperial army commander way back when and not even a Primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 I thought the Leman Russ was named after him while he was still an Imperial army commander way back when and not even a Primarch. Yes, that's where the fluff originated. The reasons for the renaming though were less set in stone and extremely hard to find any concrete evidence of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 @grifft: The Proteus has a variant armament and function, but is still technically a pattern of Land Raider. Perhaps a better example would have been the Deimos pattern predator. The name just indicates a different manufacturer or make. As for what to call our "Leman Russ"...Why not continue the mythical creature naming convention that Imperial guard tanks seem to have, and call it something like the Cerberus, or Manticore? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Manticore already exists as does the Cerberus, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Killer rabbit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckpmax1108 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Orthros? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Amarok? Giant wolf from Inuit mythology, as a hidden reference to poor Leman? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Orthros? What's that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Orthros? What's that? It's like a Cerberus I think, only with two heads instead of three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Lahmia? (Snake person) Cockatrice? (Part rooster, part snake with a death stare) Cynocephalus? (Man with dogs head) Nemean? (After the lion with inpenetrable skin) Yay for all the mythical creatures Edited November 2, 2016 by Grifftofer simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Amarok? Giant wolf from Inuit mythology, as a hidden reference to poor Leman? Let's keep it Greek to stay in theme. Minotaur? Hydra? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Both already exist as Imperial tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Nemean battle tank. I like the sound of that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Both already exist as Imperial tanks. Dang it. I like Nemean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Nemean sounds good to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 It even has the right amount of syllables. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I also like Nemean, and quite like Orthros too. Drakon, Scylla, Charybdis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'd leave Scylla, as that's the name of the Scions' Cybernetica cohort. I like Nemean Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckpmax1108 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Yes, Orthros is basically a two-headed dog. Nemean from the Nemean Lion I presume? Have a soft spot for that thing. Some others: Pallas, Argus, Echion, Gigant are all basically names of Giants Keres is a spirit of violent death Though Argus would be perfect for a monitoring system as its a giant with 100 eyes. Edited November 2, 2016 by ckpmax1108 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Or else the simple Chiron? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 CALL IT A RAKTRA. Replace the ordnance with chainsaws. bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 CALL IT A RAKTRA. Replace the ordnance with chainsaws. Then we should have have a daer'dd titan class. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/177/#findComment-4551985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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