Grifftofer Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 On Gwals re-roll. I think you should consider changing it to a flat out 3+. The probabilities work out the same and it makes for less odd interactions with certain special rules (mainly thinking Sigi's challenge ability, but there might be others). Also makes it more streamlined, which is usually good too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Oh I found 3+ to strong as were other friends of mine wo tested Gwal. He had at first a 4+ reroll but after a lot of thought it was dismissed and changed to the 5+ reroll But I think on it Edited September 25, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Yeah. My only point is that the chances of passing a 3+ invulnerable are the same as passing a 4+ followed by a 5+. 3+ = 2/3 to pass 4+/5+ = 1/2 + (1/2 * 1/3) = 3/6 + 1/6 = 2/3 to pass It just seems like a simpler way of doing the same thing :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I don't think that's how Gwal's invuln works. The way I read it is he gets to re-roll the failed invuln on a separate roll of 5+. i.e., if he fails an invuln, he rolls a D6, and on a 5 or 6 he gets to roll his 4+ invuln again. The probability works out to be slightly less than 2/3: 1/2 + (1/2 * 1/3 * 1/2) = 7/12 2/3 = 8/12 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Talonair read it right. maybe i clarify this in the rules, so that there is no misinterpretation Edited September 25, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Ah. Ok. In which case ignore me :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Sounds like a needless complication from the outside looking in. It is a Primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4180946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Demus, I've been thinking on Alex's Warmaster armor. His current armor gives him 24 inch range for Deny the Witch tests and +1 Perils. Now, the +1 Perils is one of the key traits of a Warden, so I think that should stay. Now, since you featured my little blurb on Alex's involvement of the Martian Civil War, it gave me an idea. How about giving his powers a range bonus? Say, 6 or 12 inches. And, the ultimate upgrade for any psyker in 7th is the ability to use warp charges on a better roll. Alex is currently 450 points with 2+/4++, which is essentially rerollable thanks to his Duelist rule. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to bump up the invul save, which leaves you free range to throw the points into the psyker side. At most, I don't want Alex to be worth more than 500 points since that's the canon Warmaster's point cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4181320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'd like to start writing up the introduction of the Mechanicum Abyssii to the Great Crusade, and was wondering who would like their legions involved/responsible for their discovery, and of course if anyone else would like to help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Take the wardens of light and gwalchavad:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I wouldn't mind having some interaction with them. Unlike his legion who Morro feels little to no affiliation with, the Mechanicum, in particular those who deal with Biological enhancement and modification (I'm unsure if the Biologis subdepartment were around at the time of the Heresy canonically) are ones who he admires and appreciates their forthrightness, to the extent that he has made the mistake with some of the more charismatic and politically motivated upper echelon Mechanicum officials use him as leverage to increase their standing, treating the drowned as their own personal fighting force. Of course, the rest of the legion just sees this as being chosen to hit specific targets for their skills in the crusade, and appreciate having lots of Castellax and Vorax aid them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The first contact with a legion who is not too fond of mars could be interesting, especially if this branch of mechanicum could develop strong ties with them. Gwal is suspicious because all mars has to offer are tools of destruction. But Maybe he finds something else here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The Drowned and the Wardens of Light? Certainly sounds interesting. How do we want to get the ball rolling? A Crusade fleet detecting the system and making first contact, or the fleet being intercepted by the Abyssii's own ships? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Interception and a dire situation likley some clash. Could see morro and gwal argue about the right way to solve the situation. Gwal as ever seeking the peaceful way. Morro maybe the opposite? Edited September 27, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir Hesh Kadesh 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 A clash could be very interesting, a forward scout party getting mauled by Rulebreaker weaponry, a lone survivor limping back to the fleet to tell the tale would be a good way to highlight the raw power of Rulebreaker munitions and would give due cause for a heated discussion over how to approach the situation, rather than a simple retaliatory strike by the crusade fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yep. That is the far more interesting scenario Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Cool. Who wants to get the ball rolling? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Well, I am not the best( ar least in english, you should read my german or korean novels ;p) or the fastest writer. But given enough time. I could come with something up. Should we discuss the main plot points per private messages? Hesh Kadesh 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Probably for the best. I'll PM Hesh as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 General question, what is known about Grav-Rhinos? I mean other than Custodes use of them. Did any of the cannonverse legions have access, those sorts of things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 As I know the Gravestalkers use some Grav Predator type and the Wardens of (B)Light have some Grav troop transporter (rhinotype) as for your question: look in grifttofers thread, you could be surprised ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Yeah I saw the Jocasta he was working on. Honestly I was thinking the Grav Rhinos would be perfect for my Recon and Seeker clans, as the legion as a whole doesn't really trust in flyers smaller than a thunderhawk. And rarely use pods either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4182665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Writing four brutal slobber knockers of fights between Primarchs is a hefty task I'm discovering at hand. I hope with anyone involved I do your Primarch justice. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4183363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Final sketch is up. Next update will have much more color. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4185573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Ok people, I need two primarchs to be present at the discovery of Hectarion. Anyone want to volounteer their primarch? Bear in mind that Hectarion and his army of tribesmen attacks the Imperials when they first land on Mycenae so it might be best if it wasn't a primarch he's supposed to get on well with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/29/#findComment-4187361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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