Chief Captain Redd Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I love that Gwalchavad piece! Gah I wish I could afford some commissions of Daer'dd soon. And @ AO108 what are you thinking of running for your Knight army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4362826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 3 castiagtors, 3 archeon's and 3 lancers for starters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4362832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Very solid core, have you thought about the Atrapos? That thing is a lovely beast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4362859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 will have that one in the second wave of models, then I will have two atropos' and another lancer wich will be my house leader Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4362862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Must make post without mouse!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4362886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 The bling needs it, the bling demands it. Gwal believes only in the emperor, the light and the bling, so slaaneesh wouldn't had a chance to turn him...( if he hasn#t had per chance a more blingy armor^^) Maybe Gwal's our real Sanguinius equivalent. Not vain, just blinged to the nines. Â Besides, he can't see Slaanesh to be tempted by him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Â The bling needs it, the bling demands it. Gwal believes only in the emperor, the light and the bling, so slaaneesh wouldn't had a chance to turn him...( if he hasn#t had per chance a more blingy armor^^) Maybe Gwal's our real Sanguinius equivalent. Not vain, just blinged to the nines. Â Besides, he can't see Slaanesh to be tempted by him. Â Â Because of his pariahness or because the light reflecting off his armour blinds him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well, he's fabulous enough already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Slaanesh: Every pleasure you've ever desired shall be yours if you join me  Gwal: Do I get more bling too? I mean I've been thinking of getting a dollar chain recently but dad doesn't give me enough pocket monet and I spent it all on blingier blades...  Emoeror: GWAL! WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO UP THERE?  Gwal: Uhhhh....NO ONE BE DOWN IN A MOMENT  Emperor: YOU WILL GET DOWN NOW SON! YOU CAN'T BE LATE FOR DINNER, I DON'T WANT TO LOOK BAD IN FRONT OF THIS NEW GIRL DAER'DD IS INTRODUCING TO US!  Gwal(sighs): Ok...talk later ok man?  Slaanesh(shrugs): The offers on the table at anu time just it doesn't come with bling.  Gwal: What? THEN I'M NOT INTERESTED Y'IDIOT! GET OUT OF MY ROOM! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hehe  Welll... you are doing the questoris familiaris right?  Indeed, I'm working on the Knight Households. ;) Got ideas for 5 ones but I'll sort the most interesting out to work on them for the appropiate book.   Threadnapping^^    A pic of Gwalchavad fighting during the Siege of Terra against Berserkers of Uran and Eagle Warriors. Humming this song while fighting^^  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK0AP5zMvh8    The pic was provided by Eric Tan from DeviantArts.  Stop posting all this bling! Someday we'll be blind because of that. Three threads and everytime it's like I looked into the sun for too long, seeing stars when I close my eyes. ;)  Even Slaanesh needs some sunglasses to look at Gwal.  When Gwal enters a room, it's like this    And with that, ladies and gents, I'll close post number 500! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 That is exaclty the.effect gwal desired.now think of a whole legion of bling. Now? Did your inner eyes burn out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Do we have any Chosen of (insert Dark God here) picked out? I think Khorne has a couple of candidates, particularly Slynnat (though I don't know how that plays with his Old Blood stuff). How about the other three/four? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share Posted April 13, 2016 Okay, guys, we seriously need to stop with this rotating tech curse.  A couple days ago, a friend of my brother's offered to fix my broken desktop for free. I took the offer and was happy to see that my 7+ year old desktop was working again. One problem, the mouse I was using was old and starting to break. Whenever I clicked once, it would double click. Thought 'no biggie', I'll replace it with the mouse I'm using with my desktop. It's only a couple of years old, with my desktop working again, I planned on cutting back on my laptop usage.  I plug it in with the old mouse still plugged in. Not sure if that caused everything to go wrong, but, either way, the new mouse wasn't working. Instead I get a message that the USB device isn't recognized/corrupted. I'm confused because it was working earlier that day. I take out the old mouse to see if that helps. No, it doesn't. I'm frustrated but decide to switch back to the old mouse. I take it out my laptop's wireless mouse receiver and plug in the old one. Now that one isn't working at all. In fact, it gets the same message as the wireless mouse.  My wife, trying to be supportive, offers her mouse for a try. I try, and it also doesn't work. With each mouse, I try several different ports, but it doesn't matter. Not one of them will work with the desktop which just repeats that the USB connection isn't recognized/corrupted. That's why I made my earlier post. I was desperately trying to figure out how to work a PC and make a forum post using the keyboard alone. That was frustrating.  But the latest and worst blow happened just a few minutes ago. I had given my wife's mouse back to her earlier. When I come home from work, she tells me the mouse isn't working with her laptop anyway. Rage rising, I immediately check my wireless mouse and plug it back into my laptop. Not only is it not working, but now the laptop is running three times slower than what it was just a day ago.  Can anybody tell me what the heck is going on or do I need to do an exorcism!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Sounds like somebody's been messing around with that new technomancy discipline... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 What the....?  I've never heard of a mouse corrupting computers. Oo  Can't help you, sry. I'm not an expert. If I won't forget it, I'll ask our IT manager today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well I heard something like that in university but thought all the time it was an aprils fool^^ Â Well after you mentioned it, I searched google and found this https://srlabs.de/badusb/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Companion piece I had the idea to write after seeing the new art of Gwal Garro swung his chainsword, it's teeth biting deeply into the Eagle Warrior's neck, chewing through flesh and bone alike. When he at last withdrew the blade, nothing remained of the traitor's neck but a thin string of gristle from which the head hung limply. Then, as he looked down to reload his bolter, he felt something slam into his helm, shattering the right eye lense and denting the area around it. When he looked in front of him, he saw a Berserker, his lower face obscured by a face mask and a crazed gleam in his eyes. Before Garro had time to react, the marine slammed his fist into Garro's stomach three more times before pile driving his fists into Garro's chest. When his onslaught ended, Garro was barely able to stand. Vomiting blood into the grille of his helm, he looked at the flashing runes on his left lens display. Broken bones. Severe internal bleeding. More disturbing were the three Berserkers now closing in on Garro, the original brute with his blood drenched gauntlets and two more who were revving chain axes. While Garro readied his chainsword, he knew it was futile. He died here, now, beneath the burning skies of Terra and in the shadow of Eternity Gate. Â Then, a golden blur came between him and the Berserkers, scything through them in the space of few seconds, sending droplets of blood flying across the battlefield. As the blur became stationary, it came into focus. Gwalchavad, primarch of the XII legion. Drawn to him like moths to a flame, Eagle Warriors and Berserkers of Uran charged at him like men possessed and he cut them all down as soon as they came within his range. Scything through chests, heads and necks he was an avatar of death, dealing death in short, controlled, fluid motions to his foes. Â As a fresh wave of Eagle Warriors charged, bolters blazing, Gwalchavad said "Eternity Gate holds", his voice, despite the soft, almost whisper like tone carrying across the entire battlefield over the sound of bolters and artillery. Slamming his armoured fist into his chest plate, Garro roared "NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE IN!" and charged back into the fray, chainsword in hand. Nomus Sardauk and MikhalLeNoir 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4363654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Just wanted to make sure my idea for Mycenae doesn't sound too similar to any other mini empire(mainly that founded by the Warbringers later on) Â The reason for the increase in numbers(and for those numbers being put out of the firing line early Insurrection) is that the Crimson Lions are going to need to have the numbers left to fight the Shadows Crusade(consisting of two and a bit legions) and at Terra(no cake walk) and so their original size just wasn't large enough for their role. Â Like some of their brother legions, notably the Lightning Bearers, the Crimson Lions were in possession of an empire, the empire of Mycenae, an extension of their primarch's will stretching across a large portionof the north western Imperium around the Eye of Terror. However, unlike some other legion controlled mini empires within the Imperium, the Crimson Lions controlled their worlds in person rather than delegating such a task to other humans. At the top of this system of command were the Tiarnii, lords of dozens of world, hand picked by Hectarion to govern sections of his empire. Beneath them are the Riornai, or Kings, rulers of just a single world. Like a king, a Riornos controls everything on his world, its defences, its PDF etc. and while answerable to the Tiarnii, the Riornai are still individuals of immense power. Beneath the Riornai are the Comhaldai. The Comhaldai deal with individual aspects of rulership of one world, so one will the Comhaldaios Saghaidut, the Comhaldaois of the muster, responsible for the PDF while another commands the fleet etc. Finally, there are the Goldaiar, the Guardians. On every world ruled by the IIIrd legion, there is a contingent of Goldaiar, a garrisson of Crimson Lions to aid the PDF in the defense of the world. However, despite their vital role, the Goldaiar are not listed on the IIIrd legion Orders of Battle and given that the Crimson Lions often neglect to provide more information than that(often less) to the Administratum, the Goldaiar go unrecorded by Imperial beaurocracy so while the official strength of the IIIrd legion is 130,000, this is just those brethren on the frontlines of the Great Crusade and so, factoring in estimated Goldaiar numbers, the Crimson Lions could be far numerous. Estimates vary, with the lowest putting them at around 180,000 while the highest(often dismissed as fantasy) put their numbers at 230,000, although this is likely a wild exageration. Edited April 13, 2016 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4364403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Working timeline  740.M30 - The Emperor of Mankind reveals himself and begins the Unification Wars with the Thunder Warriors.  751.M30 - The Emperor begins the Primarch Project.  758.M30 - The Primarch Project is unexpectedly halted by the intervention of the Chaos Gods. The Emperor uses acquired information to redirect the project into creating the Legiones Astartes.  764.M30 - The Ist Legion successfully achieves Alpha stage and is deployed alongside the Thunder Warriors.  769.M30 - The Vth Legion, the Storm Riders, begin their service to the Emperor through combat in the Albyon Campaign.  773.M30 - The IIIrd Legion are drafted from the pacified warriors of Albyon.  782.M30 - The Unification Wars end with the Emperor victorious. The Thunder Warriors do not survive long after the war's conclusion.  791.M30 - The XVth Legion is the final legion to achieve Alpha stage.  794.M30 - The Emperor signs a treaty with the Fabricator-General Kelbor Hal, strengthening his new Imperium with new technology and resources.  795.M30 - His legions re-armed with Martian technology, the Emperor declares the beginning of the Great Crusade on Terra.  799.M30 - The Emperor completes the conquest of the Sol System.  805.M30 - Icarion is the first Primarch to be found by the Emperor.  829.M30 - Alexandros becomes the second Primarch found. After his first three campaigns, he re-names the Storm Riders into the Halcyon Wardens.  847.M30 - Leman Russ is discovered on the death world Fenris.  855.M30 - Daer'dd rejoins the Imperium and quickly establishes himself as a master of crafts through his gifts of arms and armour.  Stuff happens  000.M31 - The Emperor announces his retirement as Commander-in-Chief of the Great Crusade and appoints Alexandros as Warmaster to complete the Great Crusade.  044.M31 - The Icarion Insurrection begins with the Day of Revelation. Daer'dd is the first Primarch slain of the war.  064.M31 - Kozja Darzalas and the Jade General defect from the Nova Imperium, killing the Primarch K'awil Pakal as they escape and create the new Suzerainty. Willym Jackel leads the Stygian Jackels as they become renegades and abandon the Insurrection to seize their own territory on the galactic edge.  073.M31 - Icarion the Stormlord executes his last gambit, using the Webway to launch a last, desperate assault directly on the Emperor and the Golden Throne. During the final phase of the Siege of Terra, Alexandros the Warmaster is slain by the Stormlord. In turn, the Emperor defeats Icarion. Madrigal is destroyed by the forces of the Suzerainty. The remaining Traitor Legions retreat to the Maelstrom and the Eye of Terra. Edited April 16, 2016 by simison Big Bad Squig, Kelborn, Skalpynock and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4366840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) The disadvantage of working with this timeline and knowing roughly where it goes is that your imagination often jumps head. To whit, the Bears vs Eagles tank battle might eventually be folded into this:  Cadian Gate  (BL style artwork of Hothor and Karakal fighting BoU and EW)  The Blood Crusade reaches the Eye of Terror  Mycenae burns as the Eagle Warriors and Berserkers of Uran tear toward the Eye of Terror. Raktra is on the verge of the terrible destiny Alexos has planned for him, and only one world stands in their path.  With the Crimson Lions scattered across their realm, just two Clans mount a last-ditch defence of Cadia. Galav Hothor and Cruach Karakal have been bitterly divided for many years, but now they are forced together as the wrath of two Legions descends on them.  -----  The idea being that the fighting on Cadia serves as a diversion for the Primarchs to venture into the eye. It's a pipe dream but hey, it amused me when it popped into my head. Edited April 16, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4366888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 I'm going to be buried in my new part-time job and two Mental Health projects due on Monday. I should be more active after that, but I wanted to ask this question before I forgot.  Writing the Jade piece and his thoughts on the Grave Stalkers got my brain rolling.  Legion rivalries. They come in several flavors from Loyalist vs. Loyalist (Dark Angels & Space Wolves) and Loyalist vs. Traitor (Iron Warriors & Imperial Fists). (Were there any true rivalries between Traitor legions?)  So, what about BotL? The reason Perturabo and Dorn don't get along is because they are too alike, and I see a similar relationship between K'awil and Jade. Superficially, they should be close comrades given their Pariah natures, anti-social, and commanders of the two smallest legions. But the details make all the difference.  Perhaps one will exist between the Harbingers and the Halcyon Wardens, or the Wardens of Light and the Eagle Warriors.  Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4367609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 If we're general tensions, he Scions and Ghost Walkers do not get on, due to an unfortunate incident involving phosphex and an enemy city. The Berserkers despise the Halcyon Wardens because of the business with the Shepherds. Â As far as similarities go, the Jackals and Ghost Walkers are somewhat similar. Perhaps the Godslayers and Crimson Lions, or maybe the Warbringers? Scions and The Drowned have a quite different relationship; I believe Slips said something about The Drowned helping the Scions to specialise for aquatic ops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4367629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Eagle Warriors and the Wardens of Light for sure. Kinda like the Iron Hands and Emperors children. Â Eagle Warriors and the Crimson Lions too, kinda like world eaters and Vlka Fenryka Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4367694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Somehow I believe there will be growing tensions between the Void Eagles and Fire Keepers as the Insurrection unfolds, Yucahu chosing an extremely offensive approach while Niklaas is "walls, walls, walls". And despite their apparent cruelty, they aren't seen in a good light by the Berserkers due to the whole Angels stuff. Â Also the Warbringers may have grown to despise the Godslayers after the Zbruch events. How far the mighty have fallen, this kind of idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4367712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I thought the Void Eagles were more pitiless than cruel. More Darth Vader than Sauron, if you get my drift. Â Frankly, I thought the Void Eagles would view the Berserkers as wasteful in their cruelty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/69/#findComment-4367714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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