Atia Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 via Andy Hall from CA http://www.pcgamesn.com/total-war-warhammer/what-the-new-age-of-sigmar-timeline-means-for-total-war-warhammer "The relationship between Games Workshop and Creative Assembly is obviously only just beginning, but if the game does well, clearly there's hope for it to continue. I myself have my heart set on a Total War in the galactic sphere of Warhammer 40,000, perhaps starting as a game about the Great Crusade and running you all the way through to the end of the Horus Heresy. Just imagining that game gets me salivating, so seeing what CA and GW actually come up with will be fascinating." of course it's not an announcement, just a "i/we would like to do that if total war: warhammer does well", but i really like the idea and hope this will be a thing :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I would be very much into this if it came true! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Hmm a 30k total war? Well... could work. I a big fan of CA and total war series, and honestly, if I could have Sigismund holding the gates of the Imperial palace vs a horde of traitors I would be instantly sold. Actually im already throwing money at the screen. But for now big hopes for Warhammer total war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolltonotdie Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I've wanted a Total War: Warhammer since I first picked up Medieval years ago. This one will at least be what Mark of Chaos/Battle March should have been. Love the idea of a 30k total war though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It'd be nice. That said, I doubt we'll see anything for three or four years at best, really. CA are currently tied up with producing content for Total War: Atilla, Arena, Total War: Warhammer and Halo Wars 2, the last of which being their first console-RTS. I'd rather see Relic make a 30k game, tbh. Mix and match influence from Dawn of War 2 and Company of Heroes 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Most exciting thing I've ever read! The Horus Heresy deserves a good game, not the mobile thing it has now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Could be interesting... I love total war and Im highly looking forward to total war: Warhammer. But how would the map work in a 40k setting? Planetary systems? 1 planet? An entire sector? The whole galaxy? It seems strange, but nonetheless it would be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Warhammer total war is shaping up really nicely, hugely looking forward to that. If off the back of that we see a 30/40k version, then excellent! (but as mentioned, wouldnt get your hopes up for another 2-3 years at least ha). 30k version with the scale of armies they use in the HH novels would be insane. Can smell the burnt out graphics cards from running 'istvaan V drop site' mission already Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 As cool as that would be, a 40k game would be better for the variety of established factions like the various xenos and multitudes of marine chapters. A civil war only goes so far... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 As cool as that would be, a 40k game would be better for the variety of established factions like the various xenos and multitudes of marine chapters. A civil war only goes so far... "the Great Crusade and running you all the way through to the end of the Horus Heresy" Well, the suggestion would have the campaign only finishing in the Heresy - the Great Crusade involved the nascent Imperium fighting many more alien civilizations than are around in 40k (quite a few of them were made extinct), so a 30k setting would actually provide more scope for variety in terms of enemies - plus, having the limitation of 18 Legions would mean that different Legions could actually have mechanical differences, rather than the restriction of aesthetic variation which would be required with 40k's myriad Chapters. I also thing the scale of 40k Chapters wouldn't really work with a Total War game - the force divisions are just too small, whereas having the Heresy as a setting would allow for battles where loosing hundreds of Legionaries without batting an eyelid becomes feasible. In terms of a mechanic for campaign progression, the emerging civil war could work really well, with the initial campaign having your forces gradually developing increasingly powerful units, and you familiarizing yourself with their uses, and suddenly finding yourself having to face these same units you've been using to decimate a weaker opposition. Tl;dr: I just want massive 30k tank battles Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 If this develops into a real product, then I'm definitely having it; a combination of two fantastic games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 IHF is right; you'd have a wide variety of xenos and human foes to go up against. Heck, you might even be able to mitigate or prevent the Heresy; or (for those Dornian fans) see a different group of legions turn. :p Of course, it wouldn't be right if you couldn't crush the nascent Imperium as a glorious ork empire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It would have to be a massive overhaul of gameplay for the battles. Total war battles aren't meant for anything past the 1860's. And total war games are limited to smaller army sizes. Honestly, 40k would be better, and it should cover a sector, not a galaxy. Each army is a regiment, and you can "recruit" space marine companies. The battle should be like a dawn of war/company of heroes 2, but with limited reinforcements based on strategic campaign armies (so what you recruit and send into battle, and how many you lose carries over like in a total war game). Naval battles would be perfect as they are (based on Empire's system). But GC and the whole galaxy is too big of scope to do well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Was literally thinking about this idea myself the other day... HH is reaching it's prime popularity and the legions make great RTS food! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Tau, Tyranids and Necrons are more iconic than all Xenos encountered during 30k with the exception of Orks and Eldar. Also factions like the Sisters of Battle, Grey Knights and so on aren't prevailing during that period. A 40k setting would definitely be my preference for a total war style game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Holy crap this would be awesome if it came to be! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I honestly wouldnt care if there were no xenos if it was 30k. A 30k GC/horus heresy game where you just have the 18 playable legions - all with similar units but unique ones/traits would be mint. (and fits well into how most TW games currently work). Agreed the campaign 'map' would be very difficult to figure out. I dont think you would have an all encompassing 'GC to the heresy' campaign. I think it would have to be broken down into a few different campaigns with bigger maps for each (similar to how they did for TW:napoleon), With the maps covering different sectors. You could throw a few xeno units into the campaigns as part of their narrative, but with multiplayer being restricted to legion on legion battles. Really wanting to play some TW now hah If it ended up being 40k era, i agree it would suit more a kind of DoW meets CoH treatment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I honestly wouldnt care if there were no xenos if it was 30k. A 30k GC/horus heresy game where you just have the 18 playable legions - all with similar units but unique ones/traits would be mint. (and fits well into how most TW games currently work). Agreed the campaign 'map' would be very difficult to figure out. I dont think you would have an all encompassing 'GC to the heresy' campaign. I think it would have to be broken down into a few different campaigns with bigger maps for each (similar to how they did for TW:napoleon), With the maps covering different sectors. You could throw a few xeno units into the campaigns as part of their narrative, but with multiplayer being restricted to legion on legion battles. Really wanting to play some TW now hah If it ended up being 40k era, i agree it would suit more a kind of DoW meets CoH treatment. Well the DoW meets CoH would only be for the tactical battles. And the bases would be prebuilt for the defender based on what the player has built. The overall strategic campaign would still be exactly like the total war games. As would naval battles. Even if it were GC/HH, the tactical battles would not fit. And the expeditionary fleets were huge, much larger than a sector's military might. If you did the 40k, you could have numerous secessionists, heretics sprouting up, chaos can lead crusades, you can lead crusades (like in Med II total war, you can call for crusades). You can have cardinals go around fighting the spread of cults. Burn witches, etc. You also won't need to worry about what happened to the other 80,000 legionaries from your legion and why they aren't in your large scale battles. Total War battles are "small." They only have around 4-8,000 people per battle. That's easier to explain away in a sector fending for itself than for a GC expeditionary fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It's worth noting that there were thousands of Expeditionary Fleets, which ranged hugely in terms of size - sure, there were the 'main' Legion fleets, with compliments of Legionaries numbering in the tens of thousands, but fleets with less than a Century of Astartes to half a dozen Chapters were common - hence the thousands of fronts of the wider Great Crusade, rather than just 18 conflicts at once. It'd actually provide a really interesting concept for force expansion - you start of as a pretty small fleet with maybe a Company of Astartes, and as you complete system-wide compliance actions, that number dwindles until you deliver compliance, at which point you warp to a major system to resupply, which gives you the opportunity to upgrade units, get new ones and expand your fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 But that's not a total war game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I was merely making the point that the issue of force size excludes neither system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/0F8ommH.gif Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I was merely making the point that the issue of force size excludes neither system.But the system won't be as close to a total war game. The majority of the troops need to be standard humans where you actually recruit them from the world. Since in total war games you recruit from specific provinces and they get stats based on where they were recruited. Also, you are severely limiting the the great crusade if you limit it to a sector. You can't portray the awesome parts of the horus heresy, because most of those involved major battles with almost full legions. You can't portray what made the great crusade and heresy so great. The battles are simply too big from the total war game standpoint. A sector in 40k is radically different, though. You can have battles where 3 or 4 regiments fight alone against several enemy armies. You can have smaller numbers. You can make space marines the elite crazy powerful forces that they are. You can keep almost all of the mechanics of a total war game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4139622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viridia Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Hate to rain on the parade, but that's something the interviewer says, and not Andy Hall himself. Can't see CA doing a game that would involve so much ranged combat, given that they've shied away from anything past the 1860's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4140295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Yup. It's not like they happen to be co-developing Halo Wars 2 with 343i or anything. Set in the 2500s. With guns. Guns. I mean, CA have stepped outside their comfort zone in the past. Viking: Battle for Asgard, for instance. Guess we'll see though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312014-total-war-warhammer-30k-maybe/#findComment-4140347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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