Fang_Guard23 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 As many of you know, Black Library is doing a space wolves quick read subscription Is a series of short stories around Ulrik the Slayer trying to see if the Great Wolf Logan Grimnar is either alive or not, and on the treasure that he found deep in a cave that could shake the very chapter. The story is written by Ben Counter whom I've found that is not one of my best authors, I just didn't like how he did Anvil of Fenris, he got a lot of space wolf fluff wrong. But I would like to hear your reviews if you read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 well, i have read the first e-short and ... ... as Berek Thunderfist is still the wolflord of ragnars company, the whole series seems pointless ... oc. Grimnar will survive, and they won't find Russ >.> kind of lame, as i would have loved some "end times" fluff :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4146857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 well, i have read the first e-short and ... ... as Berek Thunderfist is still the wolflord of ragnars company, the whole series seems pointless ... oc. Grimnar will survive, and they won't find Russ >.> kind of lame, as i would have loved some "end times" fluff :/ Did you need to read it to know that? That's a problem with a lot of Black Library in my experience, when it birngs up Codex characters, it robs stories of tension, because you know that they are going to survive. My favourite example is Pandorax, Draigo, Azreal and Abby in one warzone. If they weren't Codex characters at least one would've probably died during the book, but we all know that they're all going to make it from page 1. Also, no. No End Times. Ever. Even more so after the debacle that is the AoS fluff, I do not believe that GW has the talent left in house to pull off a 40k End Times without ruining everything. Maybe if they rehired the likes of Priestley, Chambers etc. But that's clearly just a pipe dream. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4147034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 the story is a waste of drama. it takes place during the 30th Great Hunt. the Wolf Codex then follows that entry up with multiple examples of Logan kicking butt. Attempt at drama fail. also, a freaking daemon walks freely throughout the Aett (not the damn FANG!) as Ulrik invited the disguised Changling...did the wards placed throughout the tunnels of the Fang take the day off? Was they part of the feast and too wasted to even discomfort the daemon?! so yea, typical Counter. complete crap that disregards the existing background of his topic WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4147079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 A number of things were weird in the story. 1) Alaric Nightrunner: I believe is the previous Jarl that was replaced by Bjorn Stormwolf 2) A daemon simply walks into the Aett which is heavily warded by ancient runic symbols that would make it pretty hard for a daemon to survive. The only reason that Magnus was able to walk in, during the Battle of the Fang was because the thousand sons destoryed enough of them for Magnus to manifest in the fortress. 3) The wolves pick up envoyes from fenrisian tribes?! I know that the people that live on the northern contanent of Asahime are usually gathared to become Karels, and are able to form crew's of the space wolves ships. I have to say that counter may make things sound cool, but he sacrifices the backstory for something totally original Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4147119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 well, i have read the first e-short and ... ... as Berek Thunderfist is still the wolflord of ragnars company, the whole series seems pointless ... oc. Grimnar will survive, and they won't find Russ >.> kind of lame, as i would have loved some "end times" fluff :/ Did you need to read it to know that? That's a problem with a lot of Black Library in my experience, when it birngs up Codex characters, it robs stories of tension, because you know that they are going to survive. My favourite example is Pandorax, Draigo, Azreal and Abby in one warzone. If they weren't Codex characters at least one would've probably died during the book, but we all know that they're all going to make it from page 1. Also, no. No End Times. Ever. Even more so after the debacle that is the AoS fluff, I do not believe that GW has the talent left in house to pull off a 40k End Times without ruining everything. Maybe if they rehired the likes of Priestley, Chambers etc. But that's clearly just a pipe dream. well, if they advertise it with "the great wolf is lost - maybe they have find russ" and than the story is like this (and ! plays before 999.M41 >.>) .... and i didn't want him to die^^ but some progress of the story and a fleshed out 13th Crusade with a 2nd Siege of Terra? would be awesome as hell (and btw, the end times were a GoT like off-killing of good special chars, but it wasn't bad written (maybe besides the elf book), infact Nagash was on par with FW's Imperial Armors imo^^) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4147926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 well, i have read the first e-short and ... ... as Berek Thunderfist is still the wolflord of ragnars company, the whole series seems pointless ... oc. Grimnar will survive, and they won't find Russ >.> kind of lame, as i would have loved some "end times" fluff :/ Did you need to read it to know that? That's a problem with a lot of Black Library in my experience, when it birngs up Codex characters, it robs stories of tension, because you know that they are going to survive. My favourite example is Pandorax, Draigo, Azreal and Abby in one warzone. If they weren't Codex characters at least one would've probably died during the book, but we all know that they're all going to make it from page 1. Also, no. No End Times. Ever. Even more so after the debacle that is the AoS fluff, I do not believe that GW has the talent left in house to pull off a 40k End Times without ruining everything. Maybe if they rehired the likes of Priestley, Chambers etc. But that's clearly just a pipe dream. well, if they advertise it with "the great wolf is lost - maybe they have find russ" and than the story is like this (and ! plays before 999.M41 >.>) .... and i didn't want him to die^^ but some progress of the story and a fleshed out 13th Crusade with a 2nd Siege of Terra? would be awesome as hell (and btw, the end times were a GoT like off-killing of good special chars, but it wasn't bad written (maybe besides the elf book), infact Nagash was on par with FW's Imperial Armors imo^^) Have to agree to disagree there I'm afraid. The prose could be Hemingway level awesome, but that doesn't stop the events being stupid. End Times was built on a scaffold of derp and character assassination (both literally and figuratively), ultimately boiling down to an overly expensive and long winded way of reaching the conclusion 'Deamons happen, everyone dies, lol nice setting you had there'. 40k is better off without that kind of 'development'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4147988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EYEL1NER Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Well there is some disappointing information in here. I saw the listing for this book series on the BL site recently upon visiting the site for the first time. I then tried to find more information about it or at least a synopsis of the first story. I'm kind of disappointed that it isn't a 'new' story, that it is from an old hunt. I don't think that even if it was a new tale set during whatever the current events in the 40K universe are, that Logan would die. Nor would I want him to. But they could have told a 'new' story that didn't really shake anything up or change the status quo just as well as they are telling an 'old' one. And the news of Ben Counter botching some lore is a bummer as well. I only just started reading BL books; I am reading my second book right now, the Space Wolf omnibus. But my first book that I finished a couple days ago was the Grey Knights omnibus and upon finishing the book thought to myself 'I need to read more of Ben Counter's stuff.' If there was a lot of divergences from established lore in there, I wouldn't have known it since I don't know much of the GK lore. But I have been consuming everything I can read online about the Space Wolves for months now. Those missteps definitely would have jumped out to me... Oh well. I did kind of consider getting the subscription but I will hold off. Not entirely because of these reasons; I still want to read some good Wolf action. I would much rather have a physical book though, so I will wait until all of the stories have been released and see if BL releases maybe a paperback collecting all of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312400-space-wolves-hunt-for-the-great-wolf-book-1-discussion/#findComment-4153725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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