Kriegsmaschine Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Does anyone else hate assembling these as much as I do? My will to get the boxes I have done completely disappeared after the first box and a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 What's so bad about them? I haven't bought a box of the BA Tacs, so I'm genuinely curious. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmaschine Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well I guess I've been spoilt so far as all the cc jump troops and scouts vehicles etc have been fairly easy to assemble. Things I like the least are the arms, hands, shoulder pads and backpacks and working out which pieces/poses don't conflict with others. Also I find the arms and weapons really fiddly to try and assemble well. It may just be an experience thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well I guess I've been spoilt so far as all the cc jump troops and scouts vehicles etc have been fairly easy to assemble. Things I like the least are the arms, hands, shoulder pads and backpacks and working out which pieces/poses don't conflict with others. Also I find the arms and weapons really fiddly to try and assemble well. It may just be an experience thing though. The instructions in the book tell you what arms are paired with which, and in case you threw them away, matching pairs have the same design on the forearms and backs of hands :) To be honest, I think the arms are great. Previously I had to leave the whole right arm off a model to be able to paint it. Now I can glue both arms on and just leave the bolter off to be able to access the torso of the model. I'll admit the big wing shoulderpads dont go with some raised arm poses, but thats the nature of having such a pimped kit. I dont see how the Death co kit can be easy, and the tac squad can be hard to assemble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I dont see how the Death co kit can be easy, and the tac squad can be hard to assemble? Depends how you're assembling the Death Company. Tactical Marines are only tricky because you have to line up both arms properly. With BP+CCW, that isn't even a consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmaschine Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yep I use the instruction book I'm not a complete idiot tyvm, it does give you instructions for what arm sets and various extras pointing etc to use it doesn't include what parts/poses generally work well together which is why I said I didn't like them I should really be prefitting all the pieces to see how every individual piece fits before I glue them to puzzle it all out although sometimes it is obvious what will and won't work other times it isn't that's why I find them not much fun to assemble because it seems like a lot of extra work compared to the other guys the cc jump squads I mentioned, I think the big clue for how they were equipped and assembled is in the name, and did I mention I find the tactical arms fiddly.. oh wait yes I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hey man, people are only trying to help you out... No one was aggressive towards you, keep that red thirst in check. I do agree with you on the arms, they are a bit trickier than normal. I don't know if you only want to moan about the kit instead of taking advice etc but if that's the case BnC isn't really the place for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threefiddy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I find these new kits are excellent so many variations and options to make different marines. Built a couple squads so far quite enjoyed it personally. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I haven't tried the BA tactical squad box yet, but I have used the DC box to make bolter tacticals and I know those shoulder pads and backpacks can be a pain. With things that need to be lined up I usually tack the weapon in place to the right hand (or whichever) with a dab of glue and keep the two arms loose while I get them lined up with the torso to make sure everything fits alright. Once those are in place I move on to shoulders and then the backpack. One thing I've been guilty of is getting rid of the backpack mount/bump so the backpack can be slid up a little to make room for the shoulder pads. Like I said though, I haven't had the BA tac box specifically, but those are a few things I always find helpful for those types of assemblies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The arms are a bit more fiddly than the old tactical kit (and the BA one has a few too many pointless ropes tied around forearms for my taste, not to mention some of the daft shoulder pad designs), but they also allow for a much greater range of poses without resorting to cutting up arms; some of them are even bordering on how one would realistically wield a firearm! If you judiciously cut down some of the wrists and alter the rotation of some shoulders/clasping hands there's an even greater improvement.I've only used the components from the Vanilla and BA Tactical kits to build a handful of models so far, but I can't say I found them much more difficult than the older kit. In fact, due to the above, I found it a good deal quicker to find poses I was happy with without lots of hacking and re-positioning as was the case with the discontinued kit.I don't have many positive things to say about GW kits these days (I've just finished fixing the awkward, unrealistic poses of the new assault marine legs and massaged my temples thoroughly after trying to dry fit unadulterated bolt pistol and chainsword arms into combinations that got even somewhere close to how weapons of those kinds would be held and used), but there's very, very little to criticise about the Tactical boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 With the first squad I did i cussed up a storm. 12 Squads later a breeze. Patience young one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmaschine Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 I drank way too much sugary caffeinated beverages and stayed up way later than I should last night and it made me really cranky. I apologize for being a douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDice0809 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Don't hateonthe arm and leg chords! I like them, allows me to color coordinate my squads together. I like the small details all over the Tac kit that really allow you to make them unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 With the first squad I did i cussed up a storm. 12 Squads later a breeze. Patience young one . Pics or it didn't happen... No seriously I want to see 120 of the new blood angels tacticals all in one picture, sounds awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caine 24th Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 concerning the will to keep going, whole squads or more can get tedious. I usually keep more than one project in progress at one time. So, I'll have 4 tactical marines going, maybe a chaplain, a tank, and some other things. If I get bored I rotate to keep the hobby progress going. Assembly lines are probably more efficient, especially if you're using an airbrush, but it can wear you out. I mix sanguinary guard, death co, tactical, sternguard, and even vanguard bits (admittedly the newer models all have a lot of extra detail which can be frustrating at times). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Mike Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Well I guess I've been spoilt so far as all the cc jump troops and scouts vehicles etc have been fairly easy to assemble. Things I like the least are the arms, hands, shoulder pads and backpacks and working out which pieces/poses don't conflict with others. Also I find the arms and weapons really fiddly to try and assemble well. It may just be an experience thing though. The instructions in the book tell you what arms are paired with which, and in case you threw them away, matching pairs have the same design on the forearms and backs of hands To be honest, I think the arms are great. Previously I had to leave the whole right arm off a model to be able to paint it. Now I can glue both arms on and just leave the bolter off to be able to access the torso of the model. I'll admit the big wing shoulderpads dont go with some raised arm poses, but thats the nature of having such a pimped kit. I dont see how the Death co kit can be easy, and the tac squad can be hard to assemble? Basically this. I found the new tactical box to be extremely refreshing, and with the 3 part assembly for the bolter, it's much easier to paint and even swap out special weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukimimaru Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I love the new kit. I got three of them and mixed them all up with a few DC kits and a couple of the BA upgrade sprues. It was really important to me that no one elses army looked the same as mine. Armies like Ultramarines have a habit of all looking quite samey (IMO of course) and I didnt want that to happen with my artisans of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm so torn on the bloody kit. I absolutely love it but it's just so blinged up. I'm almost tempted to just use it for elite/ veteran units and keep my tacticals semi bland like the assault Marines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Mike Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm so torn on the bloody kit. I absolutely love it but it's just so blinged up. I'm almost tempted to just use it for elite/ veteran units and keep my tacticals semi bland like the assault Marines! That's definitely not a bad idea, especially if you've been playing since 3rd edition when every space marine's armor was far more minimalist (or realist, however you want to look at it). That being said, I've been playing since 3rd and I love the aesthetic decisions they made with the recent blood angels kits. Love me a good Blood Angels aesthetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm so torn on the bloody kit. I absolutely love it but it's just so blinged up. I'm almost tempted to just use it for elite/ veteran units and keep my tacticals semi bland like the assault Marines! That's definitely not a bad idea, especially if you've been playing since 3rd edition when every space marine's armor was far more minimalist (or realist, however you want to look at it). That being said, I've been playing since 3rd and I love the aesthetic decisions they made with the recent blood angels kits. Love me a good Blood Angels aesthetic Summed it up perfectly. Mutual feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The BA tactical sprue definitely allows you to spread the love among many figures, that's for sure. Same with the DC sprue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Yeah. My brothers blood angels are only such by how they are painted. At this point a Ba tactical box would probably be used to make a squad of veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peredyne Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Here's my starting plan for my Lamenters force: One Blood Angels strike force (Captain, Tac Squad, Dreadnought) 2 Tactical Squad Boxes. 3 DC boxes Lamenters' shoulder pads from Shapeways Mix and match parts to taste. Are the new boxes more complex? Only in regards to the arms and bolters. I tend to assemble legs, torso and backpack first and then test fit arms and shoulder pads using blue tac before assembly. The last thing for assembly is the head and loose bling so I can make sure to get a good head position in comparison to the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 With the first squad I did i cussed up a storm. 12 Squads later a breeze. Patience young one . Pics or it didn't happen... No seriously I want to see 120 of the new blood angels tacticals all in one picture, sounds awesome! Not all were mine. I had 2 for myself the rest for a buddy of mine who can't put them together due to having one arm. So no pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Has he tried used a third hand? (which is somewhat misnamed in this situation, I know, no offense meant - that's just what they're called) http://www.jewelrytools.com/images/products/g04-570.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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