Lord Kasalladalla Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If I include a Demi-Co & a Deathwing Redempt force, do all forces (deathwing & Demi-co) get full BS during overwatch? Also, what is the difference between Deathwing Redempion Force and Deathwing Strike Force? I see the different rules, but can I exchange the Redempt Force rules with Strike force rules and keep my Lion BS during overwatch rule? Finally with Lion Strike Force Demi-Co, does the Demi-Co obtain the objective secured rule in the formation section under the Battle Demi-Co? Thank you for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidicul Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 All detachments in a lions blade keeps the rules for that detachment and adds the rules for the lions blade. As for your other questions I don't have my dex on me so can't answer those right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeamonQC Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The DWRF can fit into the lion blade so yes it overwatch at full BS. DWSF is a separated detachment and does not fire at full BS since it's not part of the LB. Also, if you go DWSF, you will need an auxiliary formation with your Demi Company to make it a LB detachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kasalladalla Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 All of this makes sense. I figured as much, but I wanted to verify. Thank you brothers and may the Emperor bless your dice with forever 6's! Unless it's a psychological test, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kasalladalla Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 One general rule question. If I have our Sacred Standard on an HQ marine squad (makes them relentless) and I put them in a Rhino, can I move the Rhino 12 inches and shoot a heavy and a regular troop still out the top hatches? On that note, can heavies shoot out hatches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attias Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I've seen heavies shooting out of rhino hatches before. I'll gladly stand corrected on this, but I believe the Relentless rule only overrides the restriction on moving and shooting heavy weapons for that specific unit. It does not remove the restriction that a vehicle moving at cruising speed can only fire snap shots. They are are separate restrictions. So yes, you can shoot with your heavy and trooper out of a hatch, but only snap shots. Glory unto wrath brothers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandofAnubis Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I've seen heavies shooting out of rhino hatches before. I'll gladly stand corrected on this, but I believe the Relentless rule only overrides the restriction on moving and shooting heavy weapons for that specific unit. It does not remove the restriction that a vehicle moving at cruising speed can only fire snap shots. They are are separate restrictions. So yes, you can shoot with your heavy and trooper out of a hatch, but only snap shots. Glory unto wrath brothers... I would think that the vehicle would snap fire, but the relentless unit inside would fire full BS. But I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kasalladalla Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I've seen heavies shooting out of rhino hatches before. I'll gladly stand corrected on this, but I believe the Relentless rule only overrides the restriction on moving and shooting heavy weapons for that specific unit. It does not remove the restriction that a vehicle moving at cruising speed can only fire snap shots. They are are separate restrictions. So yes, you can shoot with your heavy and trooper out of a hatch, but only snap shots. Glory unto wrath brothers... I would think that the vehicle would snap fire, but the relentless unit inside would fire full BS. But I could be wrong. I think the relentless unit is free to fire full BS regardless of the vehicle's speed besides moving flat out. Flat out stops hatch shooting. I just noticed this strategy of a heavy plasma in an HQ unit riding in a rhino essentially becoming a razorback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I've seen heavies shooting out of rhino hatches before. I'll gladly stand corrected on this, but I believe the Relentless rule only overrides the restriction on moving and shooting heavy weapons for that specific unit. It does not remove the restriction that a vehicle moving at cruising speed can only fire snap shots. They are are separate restrictions. So yes, you can shoot with your heavy and trooper out of a hatch, but only snap shots. Glory unto wrath brothers... I would think that the vehicle would snap fire, but the relentless unit inside would fire full BS. But I could be wrong. I think the relentless unit is free to fire full BS regardless of the vehicle's speed besides moving flat out. Flat out stops hatch shooting. I just noticed this strategy of a heavy plasma in an HQ unit riding in a rhino essentially becoming a razorback. This is not what Relentless does. Relentless allows the unit to count as stationary for the purposes of firing certain weapons, and that is it for firing. As such, the limitations for Transports and embarked untis being able to fire at all, and to what effect, are not ignored. It is only that the weapons designated under Relentless (heavy, salvo, ordnance) get to fire as if they were stationary (i.e. at full BS, full shots for salvo, etc.)... if they could still normally fire that is. So, a Relentless unit in a vehicle moving at combat speed allows full BS and # of shots as for a stationary unit for heavy/ordanance/salvo weapons, but firing at Cruising Speed still turns any unit's (even a Relentless one's) shots into Snap Shots (i.e. BS 1). Nobody gets to fire if the vehicle moves Flat Out of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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