No ba Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hi I am a very new blood angel player but after looking more deeply into the 40k story I found myself really liking the dark angels. Anyway I just wanted to know if you guys think it is possible for a blood angel and dark angel army as well as what sort of units I should use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 If you are going to use DA as allies, might as well capitalize on what DA have better... which are Black Knights and RW. Take a RW Strike force as allied detachment and you'll have Black knights, bikes, speeders and nice special rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No ba Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 If I was going to get RW would it still be a good idea to get the dark vengeance set or would this be a waste of money? Also I find that the problem I am having in games is taking and holding objectives so would the RW help me with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 If RW is what you are gunning for then getting a Dark Vengeance expansion set (flyer, 3 BK, 5 DW knights) or a Dark Angels battleforce (land speeder, 3 BK, attack bike) a better bang for your buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzhands Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 They don't have objective secured but with their speed, rerollable jink and twin link bolters or plasma talons they have never let me down in objective games. Da speeder can be amazing (ravenwing support squad ) and even our rw flyers are better now. The dark talon went from laughing stock to almost must take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No ba Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Sound like a good idea and I do like the flyers. Do you know if anyone has tried something like this before and had any success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I saw it done once with the older rules. He used Deathwing with Belial to teleport to the rear of the table and used his very mobile Blood Angels to roll in to the enemy like a hammer and anvil. DW were the anvil and the BA were the hammer. His biggest weakness was he had nothing for flyers which at the time were very new to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No ba Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I saw it done once with the older rules. He used Deathwing with Belial to teleport to the rear of the table and used his very mobile Blood Angels to roll in to the enemy like a hammer and anvil. DW were the anvil and the BA were the hammer. His biggest weakness was he had nothing for flyers which at the time were very new to the game. My blood angels are pretty mobile but I have no vehicles so a flyer is probably a good idea and RW are different to DW so don't know how that will work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 What do you usually take? RW and DW both eat up a lot of points, so you are going to lose something in exchange for taking the DA units. If you already have high cost units (sanguinary guard, death company, terminators, etc) then it is going to be much more difficult to fit RW or DW into the list. You could take a demi-company for the BS3 overwatch and use it for fire support. You may also want to look at the different RW/DW formations available, as well as the detachments. They don't require too much to take, and can allow you to run a supporting force that has (for example) Sammael and two Dark Talons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzhands Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Both flyers, sam and a basic command squad come in around 700 and can be taken as a strike force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No ba Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Well this is my current army for 1000 points. I was thinking of going half BA and DA but I guess that doesn't work very well. So I would probably combine different formations or something to make an army but really I have no idea what I'm doing so any suggestions would be helpful. Baal Strike force HQs -Librarian Gallian’s staff Mastery level 2 Jump pack -Sanguinary Priest Jump pack Troops -Scouts 5 Snipers -Tactical Squad +5 Marines Heavy flamer Hand flamer Flamer Drop pod Elites -Sanguinary Guard +1 Sanguinary Guard 7 Death masks Power fist -Death Company Squad 5 Jump packs Power fist Heavy Support -Devastator Squad 2 Missile launchers 2 Flakk missile upgrades 2 Lascannons Should also mention that I would be building this for 1500-2000points so there should be points for new stuff and changes to the BA army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well this is my current army for 1000 points. I was thinking of going half BA and DA but I guess that doesn't work very well. So I would probably combine different formations or something to make an army but really I have no idea what I'm doing so any suggestions would be helpful. Baal Strike force HQs -Librarian Gallian’s staff Mastery level 2 Jump pack -Sanguinary Priest Jump pack Troops -Scouts 5 Snipers -Tactical Squad +5 Marines Heavy flamer Hand flamer Flamer Drop pod Elites -Sanguinary Guard +1 Sanguinary Guard 7 Death masks Power fist -Death Company Squad 5 Jump packs Power fist Heavy Support -Devastator Squad 2 Missile launchers 2 Flakk missile upgrades 2 Lascannons Should also mention that I would be building this for 1500-2000points so there should be points for new stuff and changes to the BA army. Looks like you could use either a DW or RW detachment to bolster that. You could A) Take Belial and two squads of deathwing. This ensures you have enough models on the table to survive until reserves arrive. The drop pod arrives the first turn and I believe all deep striking units can use it to prvent scattering. B) Take Sammael and 2 - 3 dark talons/nephalim. You have very little anti-air, so you could use this to either protect from flyers or an excellent ground attack aircraft. Alternatively you can stock up on tacticals and run a demi-company. This would give you two more tactical squads, another assault squad and another devastator squad, along with one more HQ unit. This would provide a good base of fire and an overwatch at BS3 to screen you BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No ba Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 I think I will go mostly RW and may take an allied detachment for some tact marines and DW but like you say need anti air so RW will probably be priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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