lhavoc Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I have been somewhat frustrated by the Ravenwing Silence Squadron requirement to take two Nephilims for each Dark Talon (Please make the Avenger Mega Boltter rending. Please!). However, while reading "Pandorax" I came across the Talon of Vengeance, which allows for up to 4 Dark Talons for each Nephilim. The special rules are different, but would allow me to take up to 4 Rift Cannons. So the question is, would this be a legitimate Detachment for a Lion's Blade Formation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 If it's not in the Lion's blade then it is not part of it. You can use it as allied detachment however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epher Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 You could take your flyers as part of a RWSF. A would recommend Sableclaw and as many fliers as you have. The great thing is that all of them come in automatically on turn 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I would say it isn't legal in normal 40k since it's an apoc formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhavoc Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 That is debatable since looking at the Space Marine Codex, Apocalypse formations are standard (DA Librarius Conclave, anyone?). Look at Linebreaker Squadrons, Whirlwind Interdiction Forces, etc. Now all Codex Compliant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Here's the question I would say would help answer that "debate": Would you allow anyone you play against to use any Apocalypse formation they wanted to use against you in a game? Â If the answer is Yes, they could use any Apocalypse formation against you, then I'd say you could probably play that formation in a game, provided you are up front about all these facts. Â If your answer is No, then you probably shouldn't be trying to use something when you'd deny the same to someone else. Â As it is, that particular formation isn't part of the Codex: DA, so it definitely wouldn't be considered a Codex formation, and No, it can't be used as part of a Lion's Blade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve86 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 From what i have read of our codex only the formations within the codex may be used for a lions blade formation. Im not an expert of the game by any means nor do i have the codex on me at this time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4168567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Where can I find the rules for this formation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4170197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhavoc Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 It's in Apocalypse War Zone: Pandorax. It's simply the reverse of the "Silence Squadron" with 1 Nephilim and several Dark Talons. The special rule is different too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313517-talon-of-vengeance-can-it-be-taken-with-a-lions-blade/#findComment-4170207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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