Noctus Cornix Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I've always really liked Be'lakor. His model, his lore, his rules. They're all awesome and really fun to use without being over the top or ridiculous (in my opinion atleast.) My question is this. In his Dataslate, Be'Lakor can be taken as an HQ Choice in a detachment chosen from Codex: Chaos Daemons. The Word Bearers unique Rite of War, The Dark Brethren, allows you to take allies from Codex: Chaos Daemons. With that in mind, can Be'lakor be used as the HQ choice of for a Daemons allied detachment to Word Bearers? Be'lakor has some really unique rules, especially when it comes to Fear and Leadership test. I feel like most of 40k really doesn't allow you to use those rules most of the time but I think 30k is the perfect place for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 should be fine^^ after all, Be'lakor is the first daemonprince - he should be involved with the heresy (and i just wait to see him appearing in a BL HH novel tbh) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 If he's the first, does that mean he was a legionnaire? Or is he from a much older time? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBlades Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think much older. In his dataslate there is mention of Be'lakor having ruled over several multi-planet empires which he drove to ruin and then left, which seems to indicate quite a large timespan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yeah. His lore dictates that Be'Lakor has ruled over mortal Empires since the dawn of time and his past is 'woven into the history of the Galaxy. So he's probably actually a Xenos in origin, much older than humans. There's actually quite a few Daemon Princes since before the Horus Heresy, not including those like Samus and Cor'Bax (though honestly I have to wonder if they really are Daemon Princes or just Daemons), some Princes like Doombreed, Warfiend, and Bubonicus are all stated to be humans who ascended to become Daemon Princes before the Age of the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Isn't Doombreed the most powerful? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 should be fine^^ after all, Be'lakor is the first daemonprince - he should be involved with the heresy (and i just wait to see him appearing in a BL HH novel tbh) I disagree doombreed should be in the heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'd play against Ol B'k anyday. I'm positive any differences could be easily worked out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'd play against Ol B'k anyday. I'm positive any differences could be easily worked out. You're on, brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm trying to imagine you hanging out up here during an Alaskan winter. And I can't. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4170996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm trying to imagine you hanging out up here during an Alaskan winter. And I can't. That is because I'm a cold-blooded pansy and I can't stand anything under 70 degrees! I like my nice warm Texas weather, thank you. I'd rather visit you when the temperature is not a smaller number than my age. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4171004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Isn't Doombreed the most powerful? should be fine^^ after all, Be'lakor is the first daemonprince - he should be involved with the heresy (and i just wait to see him appearing in a BL HH novel tbh) I disagree doombreed should be in the heresy they should be both in the heresy xD Be'lakor was the first daemonprince of Chaos - Doombreed the first daemonprince of Khorne^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4171016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm trying to imagine you hanging out up here during an Alaskan winter. And I can't. That is because I'm a cold-blooded pansy and I can't stand anything under 70 degrees! I like my nice warm Texas weather, thank you. I'd rather visit you when the temperature is not a smaller number than my age shoe size. FTFY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4171043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 There's actually quite a few Daemon Princes since before the Horus Heresy, not including those like Samus and Cor'Bax (though honestly I have to wonder if they really are Daemon Princes or just Daemons) The Daemon Prince/Daemon split is a simplification for the sake of the game, I think. Certainly there are a few 'princes of daemons' who were never mortal, such as M'Kachen. I hope we see N'kari and Doombreed appear on the Vengeful Spirit at some point, as a little nod to the old free game in White Dwarf :) Back more directly on topic, I certainly can't see any problems with Belakor appearing on the battlefields of the 31st Millennium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4171076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 There's actually quite a few Daemon Princes since before the Horus Heresy, not including those like Samus and Cor'Bax (though honestly I have to wonder if they really are Daemon Princes or just Daemons) The Daemon Prince/Daemon split is a simplification for the sake of the game, I think. Certainly there are a few 'princes of daemons' who were never mortal, such as M'Kachen. I hope we see N'kari and Doombreed appear on the Vengeful Spirit at some point, as a little nod to the old free game in White Dwarf Back more directly on topic, I certainly can't see any problems with Belakor appearing on the battlefields of the 31st Millennium. well lets say ... if we ever come to the Siege of Terra, they should get models xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4171093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I have the old White Dwarf with Be'lakor's background. Well, I think it was his background. I didn't read it in over ten years. And even then that was before he appeared in 40,000. if we ever come to the Siege of Terra I don't think Games Workshop will survive until the next century. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313603-belakor/#findComment-4178356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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