recon0321 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 So I know that Mk V came about thru the legions needed to repair armor with the bonding studs...is it possible that they could scavenge older Mk's II AND III and make them work with Mk IV V and VI Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yes it is possible. These mixed armor marks became known as mk5. The mk5 armor from forgeworld was as far as I know experimental and was rolled into the mixed armies for mk5 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4173686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Cool thanks I was thinking of maybe combining II and III. That way I can have a varied and rag tag looking army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4173689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yes it is possible. These mixed armor marks became known as mk5. The mk5 armor from forgeworld was as far as I know experimental and was rolled into the mixed armies for mk5Yeah, so far the only Forgeworld Mk V is from the 40K range, which(following GW's design) is rather uniform. Actual Mk V was nailed in the head by both you and the OP as it is defined as either being an ad hoc design or any pattern of armor that was not officially designated at the time of the Dropsite Massacre. Like the Ultramarines' Praetor pattern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4173867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Awesome thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4173869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Which is odd, because isn't Praetorian Armour listed as Mk. IV? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think so, probably because Forgeworld based it off of the Mk IV sculpt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Which is odd, because isn't Praetorian Armour listed as Mk. IV? Â Aye, it's a Mk4 variant. However, I suppose one way to reconcile the conflicting information is to assume in-universe, that after the fact - after the scouring even - it's considered a Mk5 suit because it's not the main stream version of Maximus plate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I know in tempest the praetor is basically said to be a worse version of mk 4, and easily produced so it could be used to fill the legion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 So the chapter specific suits are variants of certain marks not Mk V? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It seems as though even FW / GW can't quite make out what is what, lol. If I mix and match armour, to me it's not a separate armour mark, it's field improvisation. I have quite a few Legionnaires that have various parts of their armour that doesn't match the overall pattern, such as Mk. III pauldrons on all of my Mk. IV (usually the left side, as it's facing the enemy and would need added protection), Mk. III helms on Mk. II armour, different legs, etc.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 That is exactly where my mind was going! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Ad hoc armor is ad hoc, most of the power armor marks were to one extent or another interchangeable, with IV and beyond being even moreso. Â Personally I still consider the iconic MKV an official mark regardless of the retcon, because... well the models are uniform, it's not ad hoc at all. Also it's one of my favorite armor marks and I'm a grumpy old grognard like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 So the chapter specific suits are variants of certain marks not Mk V?well, the ULTRAMARINES praetor is to my knowledge the only "new" mark of armor produced by a legion. The upgrade sets you see for the other legions are just alterations to standard mks. Praetor isn't mk 4, but was based off it, allowing for mass production. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Sounds good so the other suits just have legion markings Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Sounds good so the other suits just have legion markingsthe other upgrade sets for the other legions are more or less just customized mks of armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Â Sounds good so the other suits just have legion markingsthe other upgrade sets for the other legions are more or less just customized mks of armor. I would consider the FW upgrade sets more of a visual representation of Artifacer armor than an attempt to make a new Mk of plate. I have a always considered Mk. V armor to be any suit that is containing any part that isn't considered standard for that Mk of plate. Â This is quite funny considering the fluff (40k anyway)makes numerous comments how many military functions the Imperial Guard do, the Astartes feel is below them. I guess even the Legion Sergeant Major hates to see his marines not uniform! So maybe Mk. V was created so his head don't explode! Â Jokes aside I think that the Mechanicum Own the naming rights and throw anything that isn't a sanctioned into the Mk. V umbrella. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015   Sounds good so the other suits just have legion markingsthe other upgrade sets for the other legions are more or less just customized mks of armor. I would consider the FW upgrade sets more of a visual representation of Artifacer armor than an attempt to make a new Mk of plate. I have a always considered Mk. V armor to be any suit that is containing any part that isn't considered standard for that Mk of plate.  This is quite funny considering the fluff (40k anyway)makes numerous comments how many military functions the Imperial Guard do, the Astartes feel is below them. I guess even the Legion Sergeant Major hates to see his marines not uniform! So maybe Mk. V was created so his head don't explode!  Jokes aside I think that the Mechanicum Own the naming rights and throw anything that isn't a sanctioned into the Mk. V umbrella.  Yes good point.  The upgrade sets arnt named are they? Just "Mk 2 upgrade set" for example? It could be artifice but it doesnt seem ornate enough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 A suits mark is it's operating system and capabilities, not it's looks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4174937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Artificed armour doesn't have to look ornate, it just has to protect the wearer. It could be as simple as up-armoured Mk. IV plate to something gaudy like those preening IIIrd and XIIIth wear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4175041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Artificed armour doesn't have to look ornate, it just has to protect the wearer. It could be as simple as up-armoured Mk. IV plate to something gaudy like those preening IIIrd and XIIIth wear. Which is something the Upgrade Kits Exemplify, imo. Â The UM and EC kits are Gaudy and Blingy to all hell but, thats what their LEgion Does. WE sets look like Gladiatoral Armor. Makes sense. Â IF Stuff has lots of Fists and Lightning Bolts (they roll with the Big E after all) and while they look fancy, they're not UM/EC fancy. AL stuff is...well, its the AL. They do their own thing. Â IH Stuff = MOAR BIONICS THE FLESH IS WEAK, makes sense. Â Sallies -> Fancy but still down-to-earth. Â RG -> ...Raven Skulls? But generally not uber-blingy. Â etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4175055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Exactly .The armour is an extension of the Legion's personality, in a way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4175088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 But again, these unique armors that the legions wear are not s different pattern. They are still standard armor mks. The exception being the ULtramarines praetor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4175208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 It makes sense that the legions specific armor match their style...it show pride in the legion...I think they did this because they can't wear the Aquila Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313777-power-armor-after-the-drop-site-massacre/#findComment-4175231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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