Strata Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I want to get some thoughts and advice from the rest of the B&C on something that's been giving me a little bit of difficulty. I've started work on some Iron Warriors for my chaos marines, mixing in GW kit and forgeworld, and i've run into a small, but infinately frustrating problem that keeps rearing its head. The superglue that im using seems to have difficulty grabbing onto the the resin/plastic and keeping them in place. EG. A torso/arm spot.. i held it inplace for a good 15 minutes.. and it just slipped right back off. Im using small dots of glue, not flooding it with the stuff. I'm also noticing that the bonds are fragile in places, more so then seems normal, any ideas of what i can do to reinforce these spots? Would Liquid greenstuff be of use here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Have you washed the resin parts in soapy water first? Give that a try, if that fails try pinning the bits together. Personally I wouldnt even bother with liquid GS, that stuff is useless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4174633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strata Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yes, everything got a wash before i attempted to move onto assembly. I'll have to look for some material to pin it togeather with, and then figure out the best way of going about it too. I seemed to have gotten everything to stick togeather for now. I'll give it time to set up over night before i check to see how well it's bonded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4174635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Another trick I picked up from some old dude (back in the day our minis were made from stone and all this were fields) is if you get a file and give it a bit of a rub on the two bits you will be gluing, that will rough up the surface a little bit and give the glue something to stick to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4174670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Blu-Tack to the rescue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4174779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Put a tiny dollop of Greenstuff at the contact point and just superglue in and around it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4175001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Had this problem multiple times and have done both solutions mentioned above. First, either file, sand or otherwise rough up the surfaces to be glued. I sometimes score the surfaces with a knife. This usually works like a charm and the glue bonds very quickly. When I am having problems posing, or holding a delicate pose (lining up bolter-cradle arms, for example), I put a small dab of blue tack in the joint, pose the piece and then flow a tiny bit of glue in from a toothpick. I guess using greenstuff would work the same way, but it requires mixing GS and then either using the rest or wasting it. I don't think liquid GS would work at all; it'll probably just shear off the offending surface. It's really good only for minor gap filling or things where there's no stress on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4175782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I tend to go OTT when it comes to gluing FW parts, in that I pin most parts. It ups the build time, but they never fail to stick together and they hold together if you do drop them. The only time I don't pin with resin is when attaching pads or backpacks, where there isn't enough depth to get a pin hole into a component. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Lick it. Seriously. Dab of Loctite Gel on one side, lick the other component, hold together for ~30 seconds, job done. Moisture cures the superglue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Lick it. Seriously. Dab of Loctite Gel on one side, lick the other component, hold together for ~30 seconds, job done. Moisture cures the superglue. Whilst that sounds feasible, I can guarantee I'd lick the component with glue on, and then have to explain to the hospital why I've got a space marine arm glued to my tongue. It's the same principle as having a mug for paint washing while having a mug of tea t drink while painting - you either end up drinking your dirty water or putting your dirty brushes in your tea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I'm with m_r_parker, I pin most everything. I used to never pin FW, but got really tired of arms and weapons falling off in mid-game. I just use paperclips for my pins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Lick it. Seriously. Dab of Loctite Gel on one side, lick the other component, hold together for ~30 seconds, job done. Moisture cures the superglue. Whilst that sounds feasible, I can guarantee I'd lick the component with glue on, and then have to explain to the hospital why I've got a space marine arm glued to my tongue. It's the same principle as having a mug for paint washing while having a mug of tea t drink while painting - you either end up drinking your dirty water or putting your dirty brushes in your tea. Yep. All it takes is one sip from you paint water and you quickly start using bottles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Glass jars with screw lids. This lets you keep the same water for some time without risk of spilling, of things falling into it, and (for some people) of drinking it. The slight drawback is that you have to unscrew the lid to clean a brush, but you get used to that soon enough. Of course, if you do it like me then I can guarantee that you’ll never ever make the mistake of drinking your brush-washing water … I’ve been using the same jar for water to clean my brushes with for about 25 years — I just top it up under the tap when the water runs low. I suspect that it hasn’t been washed out for at least 20 years, so there’s a layer of paint sediment a few centimetres thick on the bottom of it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Real hobbyists prefer the taste of paint water. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Glass jars with screw lids. This lets you keep the same water for some time without risk of spilling, of things falling into it, and (for some people) of drinking it. The slight drawback is that you have to unscrew the lid to clean a brush, but you get used to that soon enough. Of course, if you do it like me then I can guarantee that you’ll never ever make the mistake of drinking your brush-washing water … I’ve been using the same jar for water to clean my brushes with for about 25 years — I just top it up under the tap when the water runs low. I suspect that it hasn’t been washed out for at least 20 years, so there’s a layer of paint sediment a few centimetres thick on the bottom of it But it's still the same water, eh Trigger? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313819-difficulty-with-glue/#findComment-4176698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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