Terminus Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I feel with the point increase on Castellax, they are more comparable to Kastellan robots in efficacy, although for different roles. Castellax automata is 120 points for 3 BS5 S6 AP3, pinning, -1 cover shots. Kastelan robot is 135 points for 6 BS3 S6 AP3, luminagen shots, 3 are twin-linked. Even before you factor in Canticles and Protocols, the robots average more hits, and potentially a whole lot more. Luminagen helps your other forces and you can give them Cognis for BS2 snapfire. Defensively, the robots lose a wound but get FNP, can reflect damage, and boost cover saves through canticles. Honestly, with automata now always firing 3 weapons, power blades adding an extra attack, and Cybernetica adding initiative, I'm thinking of using Mauler Castellax more aggressively. 2 flamers, power blades, pincer maneuver with Vorax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I feel with the point increase on Castellax, they are more comparable to Kastellan robots in efficacy, although for different roles. Castellax automata is 120 points for 3 BS5 S6 AP3, pinning, -1 cover shots. Kastelan robot is 135 points for 6 BS3 S6 AP3, luminagen shots, 3 are twin-linked. Even before you factor in Canticles and Protocols, the robots average more hits, and potentially a whole lot more. Luminagen helps your other forces and you can give them Cognis for BS2 snapfire. Defensively, the robots lose a wound but get FNP, can reflect damage, and boost cover saves through canticles. Honestly, with automata now always firing 3 weapons, power blades adding an extra attack, and Cybernetica adding initiative, I'm thinking of using Mauler Castellax more aggressively. 2 flamers, power blades, pincer maneuver with Vorax. yeah i really like the Castellax, the Thanatar and the Dominator look decent to me too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Domitar is kind of a turd. Less so now that you can't get two Castellax for the same cost, but still... I'm waiting on the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If only he was a Jump Monstrous Creature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Okay guys looking for some assistance. I've ordered the book and waiting on it to arrive (I'm in Australia so it's always a little while... ) Now I want to start gathering models and boys for my planned Archmagos but just want to know if there was any changes to their options since the list in Book III I plan on a Myrmidax with two plasma fusils and Machinator Array and a few other goodies. May make alterations to this though if the options have significantly altered. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 The Magos Prime is still the same since Book 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Excellent. Thank you. Didn't want to start building him just to find he was now no longer legal and needed to be changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The Magos Prime is still the same since Book 3 Except for RAD FURNACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The Magos Prime is still the same since Book 3 Except for RAD FURNACE. Ooooh. He gets that now as well? Lovely. I hear the Dominus gets an upgrade to join MC units. Can the Prime get access to this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Oldish thread but didnt want to start a new thread for this, couple of questions to with stuff in the book: 1. do rad grenades and the rad furnace penalty stack? so -2 to the opponents toughness? because that is sick! 2. there are three different versions of the hyperios missile launcher in the book (tarantula, castellum and reductor artillery tank) so which is the proper version? i rather like the cant jink save version myself :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I hear the Dominus gets an upgrade to join MC units. Can the Prime get access to this too? No it's a special rule on Domini and Arch-Domini. It's not an upgrade, they just get to attach to Cybernetica robot units. Domini is in all three lists, Arch-Domini is Legio Cybernetica only. 1. do rad grenades and the rad furnace penalty stack? so -2 to the opponents toughness? because that is sick! Yeah, they're separate effects. They might FAQ it, but as it stands now it's -2. Take it on a Malaga Prime with paragon blade+chainfist, make people weep. 2. there are three different versions of the hyperios missile launcher in the book (tarantula, castellum and reductor artillery tank) so which is the proper version? i rather like the cant jink save version myself No the first two are the Hyperios missile launcher (Tarantula and Castellum have that one). The ones on the Reductor Artillery are Hyperios air-defence missiles, which have a different profile (no Ignore Cover, but it's two shots instead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Thanks for clarifying, yeah I was thinking a similar combo for a malagra prime with scyllax would be pretty nasty and great for dealing with big monsters and nasty characters. horrible if you hit the unit with a rad cleanser first too :D As for the missile launchers, didn't notice the artillery one was twin shots, the sentry guns I wish were more than one shot or twin-linked because for 50pts each they might be a decent anti-air choice but to me just seem okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'm still sad about the Domitar, since the model I'm sure will be awesome and we're light on Elite options worth taking. Domitar with Flak Missiles - 180 points Defense: T7, W4, Sv3+/5++ Melee: D3 S7 HoW, 3 WS4 S10 AP2 wrecker attacks Ranged: BS3 krak or flak missile vs. Castellax with multi-melta, flamer, siege wrecker, ETA, Paragon of Metal - 180 points Defense: T7, W4, Sv3+/5++, IWND Melee: 1 S6 HOW, 2 WS3 S10 AP2 wrecker attacks, Rage, Rampage Ranged: BS5 multi-melta with -1 cover saves, flamer They should have just made it 200 points and make it a jump monstrous creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 nice load-out especially when compared with the dominator, also the Castellax does concussive on its HoW wrath attacks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Nope, you give up shock chargers for the drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 oh yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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