Knight of the Raven Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I liked him better without the wings, but he still looks good. He must have issues going through doors or into rooms with low ceilings though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I can always take them off, but I wanted something to make him stand out as a praetor a bit more, I didn't think the single raptor pad was enough to distinguish him from just a normal sergeant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 How about turning the head to face the other way? I think the angle might work a bit better. Looking good though :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I like it better without the wings too, they look to big, but I dunno what else I'd do to make him stand out more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Taken the wings off and the head and put it in different angles. http://i.imgur.com/wUFvESz.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/e39wgZM.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I think the top picture with him looking away is better tbh :) Don't be discouraged about the wings - try getting ahold of some ravenwing symbols and cut off the bottom part so you're left with the smaller wings. Those should work perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Hmm, I understand why kizzdougs suggested the other angle, but it doesn't really work here (my opinion) Would it be possible to chop the wings you've got in half ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I think the top picture with him looking away is better tbh Don't be discouraged about the wings - try getting ahold of some ravenwing symbols and cut off the bottom part so you're left with the smaller wings. Those should work perfectly. This one or the other? http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/bmz_cache/9/93efd71c18e345e8433fa7ef2b49fa97.image.150x152.jpg http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/bmz_cache/4/49c71e009c814d67b37d2c0e6db01e95.image.150x152.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Either one could work, you just need to trim off the "non wing" portion of the plastic. And make sure you have both a left and right side :P you don't want to end up with two right halves.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Those Raven Wing wings with the claws would work well. Just cut the claws off and you're ready to go. Ps. I think the head looks more natural looking away from the sword. You could turn the head even further if you wanted to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I thought with the way his hands were positioned he was delivering a thrust since the right gauntlet is on the pommel. Rather than the way Samurai's hold their katanas behind them in a two handed grip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4181650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I like the big wings man they look boss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4182032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Quick question how do you think I should position the wings on the helm? swept back at a right angle to the helm or sticking straight out of the side like mirror the emblem? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4183667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Runner Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Swept back, if only for the practical purposes - there's no way he could fit through doors, or swing the sword with massive wings sticking out from his ears! It also looks sleeker IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Small update, got some bits today and I've ordered a whole set of the helms as I wanna try out each different one but I decided to test out what I have currently. http://i.imgur.com/uUwqnf4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/UuAQmpI.jpg Inspiration for this angle came from the image of Astelan from collected visions and also the front of Fallen Angels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Much much better! I might have to steal that ;) Did you decide on using the ones from the RW biker kit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Much much better! I might have to steal that Did you decide on using the ones from the RW biker kit? It's the Ravenwing Command Squad Helmet, had to cut it and model it a bit, the small ravenwing emblems are a bit to small. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Those wings are :cuss perfect, WoT. Perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Much much better! I might have to steal that ;) Did you decide on using the ones from the RW biker kit? It's the Ravenwing Command Squad Helmet, had to cut it and model it a bit, the small ravenwing emblems are a bit to small. I appreciate it, I will have to get back on my 1st legion project as well!!! P.s. Don't forget the robes ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Those wings are perfect, WoT. Perfect. Thanks! I'm going to be taking them off and trying them on the different helmets, my favourite atm is the top left one in this image. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99550101467_DarkAngelsHeadsUpgrade01.jpg Much much better! I might have to steal that Did you decide on using the ones from the RW biker kit? It's the Ravenwing Command Squad Helmet, had to cut it and model it a bit, the small ravenwing emblems are a bit to small. I appreciate it, I will have to get back on my 1st legion project as well!!! P.s. Don't forget the robes If only I was good enough with green stuff to try it but I literally suck, I tried making green stuff loin clothes before but they just look like disfigured tongues lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Yeah, the wings like that are actually pretty close to perfect! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 To do loin cloths or any robes, I've found doing three or more thin layers of green stuff achieves the best results. I'm new to the green stuff game as well :) half the battle is tools - get a silicone brush and a "spoon" and you can accomplish anything. 1.) Do a thicker sheet with the general shape of what you want. Make it roughly a square shape, and make sure to have a few points of contact with the belt and possibly a leg. 2.) softly push and mold the GS around the top near the belt and around contours. 3.) let this sheet cure for about 30 minutes 4.) using small blobs of GS (no particular shape needed), put them on top of the first sheet and use your silicone brush to make some thicker "folds" in an organic manner. 5.) use any smoothing or sharp tools to refine the shape, but don't overwork the GS or you will find lines in it or abrasiveness that will annoy you to no end Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 BCK has a pretty awesome tutorial on using Tissue Paper. Found here : http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/286080-tutorial-capes-made-from-tissue/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'd keep the awesome Dark Angels helmet (FW knocked it out of the park with those), but lose the wings. I think he gets the point across without (what I see as) useless ornamentation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'd keep the awesome Dark Angels helmet (FW knocked it out of the park with those), but lose the wings. I think he gets the point across without (what I see as) useless ornamentation. I wanted him to look a bit like this guy http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/2/29/Fallen_angels_clean.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313883-converting-a-dark-angels-praetor-updated/page/3/#findComment-4184618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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