Arac Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 When comparing the several Equipments, mentioned in the books and pictured in the artworks and the model from Edgar Skomorowski, one cannot oversea the differences: http://wh40k-de.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/c/c7/Kor_Phaeron_Miniatur_%28Forge_World%29.jpg http://wh40k-de.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/c/cd/Phaeron2.jpg/407px-Phaeron2.jpg http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b7/Kor_Phaeron.jpg In the older artworks he wears Power Armour. One time with an Icon and no visible weapons. The other time with a bolt pistol and some Kind of (lighting?) claw. But then the Switch to the "custom Cataphractii TDA". Was ADB the first to "retcon" Kor Phaeron into the Terminator armour in "First Heretic"? Or was it Abnet in "Know no fear"? I reread some Scenes of Kor Phaeron. The "Zetsun Verid Yard" Scene in KnF seems to be the only one were he is actually fighting. No armour is mentioned. No weapons are mentioned except "a beam of smoke light [...] from the Palm of his right Hand", a blast of "weird negatice electricity". I read this as psychic powers. Also he has the athame. In the Video about the design of the models from Edgar he just assumes he is an "old man in a cataphractii armour" but the artwork he Shows for him is a Picture as abouve, so power armour. tldr: Why Terminator armour? Why lighting claws in the rules and on the model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 because that's how he is described in "The First Heretic" ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can you give me a reference or a description of the scence where that is mentioned? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 don't have the book here, it should be as early as the intro chapter where argel tal's chaplain that kor phaeron has a terminator armour and isn't worth it 'cause he is not really an astartes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can you give me a reference or a description of the scence where that is mentioned? Towards the start, when the WB assemble at Monarchia. He has customised TDA because he's not a full space marine so he needs a custom suit to keep his strength at relatively Astartes level and I imagine it's almost like a life support system, and it definitely mentions his claws (something about lightning rippling through his claws). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Thanks you guys. So it seems that ADB is the root of the Change from Power Armour to a life supporting, modified terminator armour. So now i just Need ADB to explain his intentions and then that's all I need for my salvation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 How come? I much prefer it as he is now, makes him a bit more interesting. And the model is kickass apart from the face, I love the armour, with its Pistons and stuff, and the claws look vicious Actually I've been reading it as if you weren't happy with the change but that might not be the case, just curious? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The real pity for me is that they didn't stick with this awesome face! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The real pity for me is that they didn't stick with this awesome face! Completely agree, that face was awesome, and very very close to how I'd pictured him from reading the books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4179989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The graphic novel shows Kor Phaeron trading his broken suit of terminator armor for power armor after Guilliman damages it so badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 I own that graphic novel but didn't remember that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can someone remind me what Kor Phaeron wore in Battle for the Abyss, since that is his earliest appearance in the HH series? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can someone remind me what Kor Phaeron wore in Battle for the Abyss, since that is his earliest appearance in the HH series? i don't think that anyone wants to remember that book tbh :X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Eh. But since it's before First Heresy, it can help clarify a starting point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkApostle7 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I dont know where that first pic of Phaeron in PA came from but i dont think that thats him in the picture, everything about it is too different and it just looks like a standard Word Bearer to me, Kor is Very Very old in the 40k setting and is Dark Cardinal or sommink so has alot more showy armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Can someone remind me what Kor Phaeron wore in Battle for the Abyss, since that is his earliest appearance in the HH series? i don't think that anyone wants to remember that book tbh :X I quite enjoyed it actually. I'm not sure kor phaeron was in the book long enough? I thought it was another dark apostle type fellow who was the general WB antagonist. Been a long while since last reading Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b7/Kor_Phaeron.jpg This one is definately him. The book is right in front of me and the pic is captioned: "Black Cardinal Kor Phaeron - Word Bearers - John Gravato" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 He probably swaps to power armour because in the end chaos gives him enough power to compensate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 also, hasn't he a heart made of chaos energy or something now? (i actually remember that their was a short story about his dark heart or so) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b7/Kor_Phaeron.jpg This one is definately him. The book is right in front of me and the pic is captioned: "Black Cardinal Kor Phaeron - Word Bearers - John Gravato" That one is yeah, the other one, the Karl Kopinski one, I'm not sure that's Kor Phaeron, if it is I've never seen it captioned as such. Just a Word Bearer marine I thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 also, hasn't he a heart made of chaos energy or something now? (i actually remember that their was a short story about his dark heart or so)There was a story called Dark Heart in the Mark of Calth anthology where Marduk killed his master and then became acolyte to Kor Phaeron. Although maybe what you're thinking of is in that graphic novel? I'm not sure because I never read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/b/b7/Kor_Phaeron.jpg This one is definately him. The book is right in front of me and the pic is captioned: "Black Cardinal Kor Phaeron - Word Bearers - John Gravato" That one is yeah, the other one, the Karl Kopinski one, I'm not sure that's Kor Phaeron, if it is I've never seen it captioned as such. Just a Word Bearer marine I thought. In the 4th Ed rulebook he's named as “Kor Phaeron of the Word Bearers, Master of the Dark Faith" (Pg. 128, if you need a citation.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4180420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The graphic novel shows Kor Phaeron trading his broken suit of terminator armor for power armor after Guilliman damages it so badly. "I just had most of my torso pulped by an angry Primarch, but I survived. Now I'm gonna wear less armor on my torso." Oh, Kor... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4181187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The graphic novel shows Kor Phaeron trading his broken suit of terminator armor for power armor after Guilliman damages it so badly."I just had most of my torso pulped by an angry Primarch, but I survived. Now I'm gonna wear less armor on my torso." Oh, Kor... Yolo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4181261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The graphic novel shows Kor Phaeron trading his broken suit of terminator armor for power armor after Guilliman damages it so badly."I just had most of my torso pulped by an angry Primarch, but I survived. Now I'm gonna wear less armor on my torso." Oh, Kor... Wasn't his terminator suit a custom jobbie whereas his size power armour is evident in other novels by at least 2 human cultures wearing a man sized variety of PA therefore is a bit more easy to get hold of that a one off suit. I mean no one said kor was or other WB were overtly bright "hey kor being as we're bred to, you know, fight stuff, do you not think we should have more than one of these built just in case this one gets busted?" "Nah I'm good I don't expect I'll see much action and if I do I certainly won't be facing off anything that could do too much" Many years pass.... Sees robby G "Bugger" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314085-kor-phaeron-equipment-in-the-lore/#findComment-4181582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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