Son of Carnelian Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I dunno. I will always love 40k as a setting, but I can see why people have gravitated to 30k. Hell, once the Horus Heresy plastics come out, I'm probably in all the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4181973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 40k setting good 40k model range hobbyists and late comers Not so much Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4181978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tried this 30k thing and got bored after a month . 40k Marines have more flavor so many Colors. How long before the '30K isn't that great' crowd shows up?Negative two and a half hours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4181990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I got into the fluff as a kid. Rogue trader heresy dreams and pouring over the 'history' of this alternate universe to the point where my mom let me know if be a straight a student if I studied my math book like I studied 'that book.' The FW heresy stuff is what brought me back into the gaming fold... I was pretty much finished mainly because I was just wore out with the timeline. Getting to travel back to the beginning has allowed young me with adult me's wallet to build the armies of my day dreams. Pretty freaking cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4181993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm just a disgruntled ex-CSM player living the 30k dream! I think there's a help group for that.... It's called resin addicts anonymous Washing away plastic sorrows in a tide of glorious resin with legion rules since 2012! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 If Age of Sigmar hadn't happened, my time would probably still be split 50/50 between HH and Fantasy (I miss you WHFB ). As far as HH vs 40k is concerned, it's all HH for me. That's not to say that I won't collect any 40k in the future, but my focus is very much on the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Well I though we were all on board that the Horus Heresy is an amazing, beautiful game that had the exquisite bravery of a butterfly flying against the wind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 personally i like both, i enjoy the fluff in both, the rules in both and the miniatures in both. honestly the thing i find sad (as in disappointing) is the divide i often see between heresy players (particularly 'veterans') and their 40k counterparts, all too often i see and hear heresy players looking (and talking) negatively about anything 40k, whats interesting is i dont typically see the same in the opposite direction. i continue to build my little red men, and they will be used as both a 40k army and a siege of terra army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I came to this conclusion a while ago - and its relatively easy to come to terms with. I buy the odd codex and new plastic kit to stay current, but codexes have gone downhill in multiple ways, at least the plastics don't dissapoint. 30k appears to have people behind it that genuinely care about the game and universe, and not just collecting a pay check at the end of the month. People will complain that it's too expensive, others that there not enough non-marine / xenos variety in the system, but when you get to the core of it it's a better experience than the 40k big brother. People will have their issues regardless, but I'm loving every second of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The only thing keeping me in 40k is my Eldar Wraith, Necrons and Space Lizard (demons count as) armies. I have been working on my own Space Marine chapter and imperial allies for a long time, slowly building up the bits for the conversion and so on but I feel no draw to actually getting it done and play ready. Instead 30K Mechanicum is where I feel drawn to. The 40k Mechanicum stuff has some nice looking stuff but the overall feel of the mini dexese do not work for me, even together they don’t feel like a rounded army list. That said I will probably using some kits for conversion purposes with ranger as a base for Adsecularis , the datasmith, sicarian and electropriest providing parts for Tech-priest auxilia and dominus, maybe a second magus as well. So while I have not lost some of my entusiasem for 40k in favour of 30k there are still parts I like, now if only there could be a 30k style balanced necron, elder and demon list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Love both, play both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Worth noting also that some of the greatest 40k codex writers (all hail Andy Hoare!) now work for FW. So many of us who were fans of what 40k once was naturally are attracted to FW, who arguably still follow the design philosophy of oldschool GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBlades Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I havenn't even bought anything 30k yet and I'm already more enthusiastic about the plastic HH than the new Tau codex (my 40k army) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheesh Mode Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I played 40k to have a fun narrative driven series of games using Codex: Chaos Space Marines while also playing competitively within the structure of my army's fluff. In 40k that is almost impossible to accomplish. Playing fluffy chaos space marines is essentially asking my opponent to handicap myself or being ready to lose. It is extremely frustrating. So I started playing 30k where the armies operate almost identically to chaos space marines, and have not regretted the decision. I continue to use Chaos Space Marine models, yet their rules are far more representative of their abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I started playing 40k in the RT days reading of the heresy... BL started the heresy series 22/3 years later and then FW starts the goodness of producing the minis and writing the rules/fluff... I am living the dream as it were. The goofy pics I drew as a 13 year old are now manifest and a whole lot cooler. I do t have time to game so I just collect and paint my army, readying myself for the siege of terra whenever BL/FW/Dan/adb decide to write it;) I have basically been going all resin for the last 4 years and sd my Xenos armies and now my 40k armies to fund my HH stuff and my sons orks are just about ready for a massive paint infusion to balance out all the time and energy I've devoted to my fists. It's really nice to read the responses thus far and see that there are different reasons why folks begin the HH journey and the similarity in that we are all here for the joy of our hobby Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 If Age of Sigmar hadn't happened, my time would probably still be split 50/50 between HH and Fantasy (I miss you WHFB ). As far as HH vs 40k is concerned, it's all HH for me. That's not to say that I won't collect any 40k in the future, but my focus is very much on the Heresy. Amen to that, rip good old fantasy. Have to say if the plastic heresy model rumors turn out to be true, 40k days are just completely gone. Only thing holding me back from going all HH is the prices, just makes collecting take more time, and I know sadly a lot of people who might be interested in playing won't because of resin costs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have a Blood Axe Ork army I'm building using the Kromlech stuff, but it's mainly just for the hobby. 40K is dead to me and officially has been since that joke of a codex came out for Chaos in 5th Edition. Phill Kelly let me down and after saying all the OP garbage coming out, I've lost all faith. Forge World is really the only thing that keeps me in this game with the Horus Heresy supplement, and as long as they keep it up I will be loyal to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Same here. I left the hobby after Chaos 3.5 was replaced with one sad codex after another. Despite GW, I love 30k, and it pulled me back into the hobby. I play 30k in 40k with my local group, but we've entirely burnt out and lost interest in the vanilla game recently. The dread that 40k stands a chance to get the AoS treatment also expedited people jumping ship to the heresy :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Very simply put, there is no 2++ re-rollable that means you can shrug off any shots or close combat attacks or like a recent game against Eldar (I know, what was I thinking) having warp spiders jump away from shooting only to move back shoot and then run away again twice and then again from more shooting. Sorry to me that is complete :cuss. And besides, 30k has Primarchs. Marneus or Gulliman. Tough call. Not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 The Eldar do hack me off. Bloody mass D weapons on infantry? No. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'm supposed to be finishing my Black Templar army but after watching two games of 30k and talking to the players .... can't stop thinking about a Scouring Era Imperial Fist Company right before transitioning to 2nd Founding Black Templar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage of Khorne Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Several of my 40k armies have already been sold off to be replaced by 30k legions. Some have even been torn apart and stripped for choice pieces to fuel my 30k obsession. 30k is 40k for grown ups; balanced enough to be fair and story driven enough to be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 personally i like both, i enjoy the fluff in both, the rules in both and the miniatures in both. honestly the thing i find sad (as in disappointing) is the divide i often see between heresy players (particularly 'veterans') and their 40k counterparts, all too often i see and hear heresy players looking (and talking) negatively about anything 40k, whats interesting is i dont typically see the same in the opposite direction. I can't imagine not loving and doing both, in some form or another - though I respect the fact a lot of my friends prefer the Dark Millennium for variety of aliens and armies, and the depth of the lore. There's undeniably a lot more going on in front of and behind the curtain in terms of Warhammer 40,000, so I don't disparage their preferences. That said, as Blindhamster says, you do run into a fair amount of this: 30k is 40k for grown ups; balanced enough to be fair and story driven enough to be interesting. ...which can be frustrating, as it usually only goes in this direction. And, interestingly, I don't know any of the creators and authors deeply involved with the Horus Heresy that would agree. None of them that I'm aware of stridently prefer the Heresy in such unpleasant terms, if at all. You just end up liking both. No one loses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'm hooked, 30k has brought me back into the hobby big time. The setting is amazing and the rules FW have written capture the universe beautifully. Really enjoying my Ultramarines at the moment. Haven't bought anything for my Death Korps of Krieg in 6 months. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4182800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 30k is awesome in a lot of ways, and my favorite books are from the Horus Heresy. That said, from a pure lore standpoint 40k will always reign supreme for me. Watching a several thousand year old Empire burn while countless alien species emerge from every crevice to feast on it's carrion is just so awesome, and while the Horus Heresy is grand those measly seven years seem small compared to the 1000 years of war that follow in the Imperiums death knell. So much is happening everywhere, heroes and villains emerge in every faction just in time to witness the dying of the light, it's so beautifully tragic and epic in scale that I don't think any other setting, or even any other point in this settings history will truly live up to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314190-anyone-else-find-30k-is-absorbing-the-rest-of-their-hobby/page/2/#findComment-4183262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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