dtse Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 So I know a lot of people just play it so you can take other HQs with your Ravenwing strike force. That's cool. But do you also play it that those HQs get the Ravenwing special rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadangel101 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Most people seem willing to agree to this. Just ask your opponent before you play if they are okay with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngeal Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 ITC rules it that space marine bikes confer ravenwing to any dark angels. If your group doesn't use those rules, just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhoenix Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Pay attention that, according answer from GW, you could take IC on bike to RWSF, but this IC doesn't get "Rawenving" special rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 so anybody that has dark angels faction, takes a bike, it gains Ravenwing special rule. Â But any other character thats not a DA, does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 No, actually it's not like that. HQ's on bike only gain RW rule if they are DA and if your group agrees they can. So a non-DA HQ will never get RW rule and a DA HQ on bike will only gain such rule if you ask before hand to your group or if your group has a house-rule about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeChisler Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Pay attention that, according answer from GW, you could take IC on bike to RWSF, but this IC doesn't get "Rawenving" special rule.  I've not seen anything official or unofficial from GW, asked at the store at the weekend they know nothing   Q. When is a HQ not a member of the Ravenwing A. When he's on a bike ;)  Totally ridiculous how it wasn't spotted at proof reading time, every DA Ravenwing player took 1 look at the formations at the back and went What!!!!   Its down to your gaming group really the reason GW  wouldn't auto upgrade HQ to Ravenwing (even though it makes the most sense) is the proliferation of multi force SM spam bike deathstar lists but that's not our problem its a problem of their own making and if people abuse the ITC ruling then their gaming group will soon tell them which rock they can drive their bike back under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhoenix Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Q. When is a HQ not a member of the Ravenwing A. When he's on a bike Totally ridiculous how it wasn't spotted at proof reading time, every DA Ravenwing player took 1 look at the formations at the back and went What!!!! Long time ago for one of the previous version of our codex (probably 4th edition) GW answered on such question in FAQ: Q. Chaplains and Librarians may take Space Marine Bikes as an upgrade. According to the Dark Angels organistion chart on page 15, Librarians don't belong to the Ravenwing, but it would appear that all bikes in the chapter do. So do bikes bestow the Ravenwing rules upon characters taking them? It seems logical to be able to field a Ravenwing Chaplain with the special rules, but what of the Librarian? (p80-81) A. Very creative use of the background, I must say. Sadly Chaplains and Librarians on bikes don't benefit from the Ravenwing special rules. Come on, you didn't think we'd really say anything else, did you? So there is background and there are rules. Sometimes they contradict each other. Dark Angels bike never give any additional special rules to IC compare to ordinary bike from rulebook. I don't think GW will change their approach. Also I've not seen anything official or unofficial from GW, asked at the store at the weekend they know nothing http://s1.postimg.org/ulpy191v3/image.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonBased Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 My area plays with the ITC rules. Patches some of those rules holes left by the "relentless profit machine" that doesn't care about the rules because they think only 20% of us actually play the game instead of collecting models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Now, if only that officlal GW errata would actually appear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Pay attention that, according answer from GW, you could take IC on bike to RWSF, but this IC doesn't get "Rawenving" special rule.   so anybody that has dark angels faction, takes a bike, it gains Ravenwing special rule.  But any other character thats not a DA, does not.  Umm...no, that's actually almost exactly the opposite of what MoonPhoenix said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonBased Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Â Umm...no, that's actually almost exactly the opposite of what MoonPhoenix said... Â Â According to a customer service person's email: Bike + Character = RW HQ for the purposes of the formation According to ITC rules: Bike + Character = RW HQ with RW special rule for the purposes of the formation According to how you want to play it? Ask your opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Until a official FAQ from GW i play RW only with Sammael as my only HQ... When i play cause lately i am playing more HH than 40K cause i am irritated by the poor writing of the DA codex... I would like a errata from GW but knowing how bad are the DA erratas for the 6th edition codex well i like better to be forced to play Sammael... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallaisbananen Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Too bad that Librarians doesn't get Ravenwing rule if they ride with them, but looking in the codex no librarian are structurally tied to the company. Not as they chaplains are, but they are there for a reason, and it means that the chaplains would gain the rule as they are a actual part of the 2nd company. Anyway, I placed a RW shoulderpad and pimped it with gold in case of the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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