Knight of the Raven Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I know Horus Heresy lists are poor at low points, but can this army take on all threats other than fliers? HQ (135) Legion praetor (135) Tartaros terminator armor, power sword Orbital AssaultTROOPS (420) Legion tactical squad (210) 9 x Legion tactical marines Legion tactical sergeant, artificer armor, power sword, melta bombs drop pod Legion tactical squad (210) 9 x Legion tactical marines Legion tactical sergeant, artificer armor, power sword, melta bombs drop podELITE (300) Legion veteran tactical squad (300) 7 x Legion veteran marines, 2x missile launchers with suspensor web, melta bombs, tank hunters Legion veteran sergeant, artificer armor, power axe drop podFAST ATTACK (145) Deathstorm drop pod (145) deathstorm krak launchers, drop pod assault I'd like to keep the terminator praetor and the sergeants as they are if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Looks fairly solid, though the vets can only take one special weapon per 5 marines in the squad. I would be tempted to give them a meltagun to save points and then take Vexilas on your tactical squads for re-rolled moral checks. You might also have enough points for a Paragon Blade for the praetor, which I would definitely take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Swine Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Would you not take a paragon blade for your praetor instead of a power sword? A lot more sufficient and killy, means you would have to shave off a rocket launcher from your vets (as they can only have 1 for every 5 guys sadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Would you not take a paragon blade for your praetor instead of a power sword? A lot more sufficient and killy, means you would have to shave off a rocket launcher from your vets (as they can only have 1 for every 5 guys sadly). The Tac Vets are 10 Men. 7 + 2ML + 1 Sarge. Agree on the Paragon Blade but, being strapped for points, I'd probably go for a Power Axe instead since its a free Swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Would you not take a paragon blade for your praetor instead of a power sword? A lot more sufficient and killy, means you would have to shave off a rocket launcher from your vets (as they can only have 1 for every 5 guys sadly). The Tac Vets are 10 Men. 7 + 2ML + 1 Sarge. Agree on the Paragon Blade but, being strapped for points, I'd probably go for a Power Axe instead since its a free Swap. No it's an 8-man squad, KotR was just asking about this in the rule section regarding slapping a Terminator armored character in a pod with an 8-man squad. I am assuming it was in regards to this very list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Would you not take a paragon blade for your praetor instead of a power sword? A lot more sufficient and killy, means you would have to shave off a rocket launcher from your vets (as they can only have 1 for every 5 guys sadly). The Tac Vets are 10 Men. 7 + 2ML + 1 Sarge. Agree on the Paragon Blade but, being strapped for points, I'd probably go for a Power Axe instead since its a free Swap. No it's an 8-man squad, KotR was just asking about this in the rule section regarding slapping a Terminator armored character in a pod with an 8-man squad. I am assuming it was in regards to this very list. I stand Corrected. In this case only 1 ML in the Squad then since its 1 per 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Which then definitely frees up points for a Paragon Blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 though the vets can only take one special weapon per 5 marines in the squad. D'oh! That will teach me to read better. Thank you all for the help. If I were to choose between two vexillas on the tactical squads and a paragon blade for the praetor, which should I take? In this updated list specifically: HQ (135) Legion praetor (135) Tartaros terminator armor, power sword Orbital Assault TROOPS (440) Legion tactical squad (220) 9 x Legion tactical marines, vexilla Legion tactical sergeant, artificer armor, power sword, melta bombs Legion drop pod Legion tactical squad (220) 9 x Legion tactical marines, vexilla Legion tactical sergeant, artificer armor, power sword, melta bombs Legion drop pod ELITE (280) Legion veteran tactical squad (280) 7 x Legion veteran marines, 1 x meltagun, vexilla, melta bombs, tank hunters Legion veteran sergeant, artificer armor, power fist Legion drop pod FAST ATTACK (145) Deathstorm drop pod (145) deathstorm krak launchers, drop pod assault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I would run this: - Praetor: Artifcer Armor, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Melta Bombs, Orbital Assault ROW - 155pts - 8x Veteran Tactcial Marines: Sgt. w/artificer armor, power axe, squad meltabombs, vexila, drop pod - 280pts - 10x Tactical Marines: Sgt. w/artificer armor, power axe, meltabombs, drop pod - 210pts - 10x Tactical Marines: Sgt. w/artificer armor, power axe, meltabombs, drop pod - 210pts - Deathstorm Dop Pod: DP Assault, Krak Launchers - 145 Total: 1000pts You lose the vexilas on the tacticals, but keep it on the vets who are really the ones you don't want running away. Your praetor will now be a stiff prospect at 1000 points and will allow you to sweeping advance, which the terminator armor would have prevented. He's also 10 points cheaper this way. Alternatively you could drop the fist on the veteran sergeant, give him an axe instead, and drop the meltabombs from the praetor, give the veterans the fearless tactic, and then be able to put vexilas on both tactical squads with no fear of your main death star unit breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I wouldn't take the Deathstorm, as it doesn't help you get more pods on the board 1st turn. Maybe take a squad of Jetbikes instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 The thing is, I want to use the models I like, which means my terminator praetor in spite of no sweeping advance and deathstorm-backed orbital assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Alrighty then, no harm in that. How about this:HQ: • Praetor - Tartaros Terminator Armor, Paragon Blade, Orbital Assault ROW - 155pts Elites: • Veteran Tactical Marines (8) - Sgt. w/Powerfist, 1x Meltagun, Squad Meltabombs, Drop Pod, Veteran Tactic: Fearless - 260pts Troops: • Tactical Squad (10) - Sgt. w/Artificer Armor, Power Axe, Meltabombs, Vexila, Drop Pod - 220pts • Tactical Squad (10) - Sgt. w/Artificer Armor, Power Axe, Meltabombs, Vexila, Drop Pod - 220pts Fast Attack:• Deathstorm Drop Pod - DP Assault, Krak Launchers - 145pts TOTAL: 1,000pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Perfect! Thank you very much. Two questions though; what is the importance of power axes as opposed to swords on the tactical sergeants and which drop pods should I deploy on the first turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Axes will give you AP2, which aside from your praetor only the meltagunner has. At low points pretty much everyone I know runs some form of Terminators or another, not sure about your meta though. Magnetize them if you mainly face 3+ armored opponents (though everyone usually puts artificer armor on their sgts anyways). As for the pods I would probably do the deathstorm and a tactical. they'll draw a lot of fire, but at least you wont be giving away both troop choices or slay the warlord on turn 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Seeing as my country's common language isn't English, few people will be willing to play with an entire book's worth of rules from Forge World and as such I expect the store manager to be the only one I'll play with. I'd rather avoid playing against whatever marine army he may have since I wish to play during the Great Crusade era; any current xeno or non-Astartes human organization is fair game with the magic of count-as. Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 No problemo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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