Jolemai Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Until FW say otherwise, Phoros is a HQ choice. Badab Characters Update Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4185287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Taking Tycho in thus day and age? Ballsy. I suppose he's a challenge monkey for the DC and in big challenges ap3 even wouldn't help. Wish dead man's was ap2 though :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4185392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Crimson Fists would make a good allied detachment. Bolter drill, so run heavy bolters with a tac squad that counts as your troop choice. Run Grav+hurricane bolter Devastators as your heavy. Chapter Master Pedro Kantor is amazing HQ choice btw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4185977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjr Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Crimson Fists would make a good allied detachment. Bolter drill, so run heavy bolters with a tac squad that counts as your troop choice. Run Grav+hurricane bolter Devastators as your heavy. Chapter Master Pedro Kantor is amazing HQ choice btw. I'm inclined to agree with you, but I'd like to hear why Pedro is an excellent HQ. As noted earlier I'm playing around with an allies Skyhammer, which is (at least so far) Imperial Fists with a devastator squad of 4 Heavy Bolters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4186012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Pedro plus assault centurions in a pod. Ooooft Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4186213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Crimson Fists would make a good allied detachment. Bolter drill, so run heavy bolters with a tac squad that counts as your troop choice. Run Grav+hurricane bolter Devastators as your heavy. Chapter Master Pedro Kantor is amazing HQ choice btw. I'm inclined to agree with you, but I'd like to hear why Pedro is an excellent HQ. As noted earlier I'm playing around with an allies Skyhammer, which is (at least so far) Imperial Fists with a devastator squad of 4 Heavy Bolters. Pedro tanks very well and gives +1 attacks to units within 12" of him and preferred enemy Orks (Oath of Rynn) Also is a chapter master and has orbital bombardment, and gives sternguard objective secured. And yes what Charlo said, Put Pedro in with a Centurion assault squad and they will blender things! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4186376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The synergy is even better, they can land, Melta stuff and then pedro uses the omniscope to OB a different target :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4186478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I thought you had to remain stationary to use ob? So if you where getting out of a pod u wouldnt be able to fire it? Its why ive never found ob usefull.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4186958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Centurions give Pedro Slow and Purposeful :3 as well as move through cover! Pedro gives them all an extra attack too, so it means with the veteran upgrade you have 13 attacks at S8 AP2 armourbane at initiative! Good bye Knights. You can also upgrade the cents to have bolters instead of frag launchers as pedro has the grenades! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4187183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 And I'm doing the opposite LOL ... my main army are Crimson Fists and I'm building/painting a Blood Angels allied force of a flamer-based tactical squad, 10 jump pack death company, and my HQ is a jump pack chaplain. But ... as time goes on I'm going to continue to build my Blood Angels from an allied detachment to a modest sized army ;) .... They were my first army and I still have much love for them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4187719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You can also upgrade the cents to have bolters instead of frag launchers as pedro has the grenades! You may want to read the rules for grenades again. Grenades only give the model that has them a benefit on the charge and with meltaguns grenades are hardly relevant in the shooting phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4187723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Oh, I thought as long as someone in the unit had grenades then it was all good charging into cover. I'm also of the mindset that the frag launchers just provided the cents assault grenades. I do not have leagues of experience with any centurions :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314270-what-would-you-take-in-an-ally-sm-force-to-support-your-ba/page/2/#findComment-4187826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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