Noserenda Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 So how does it all tie up? Still cant read spoiler tags :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4529700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Every thing is fine lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4529723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 So how does it all tie up? Still cant read spoiler tags :/ You could click on 'Qoute' to read them, as it puts it in plain text in your reply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4529729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Every thing is fine lol yep, super friends beat the beast(s) 3rd time lucky and all that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4529738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 So how does it all tie up? Still cant read spoiler tags :/You could click on 'Qoute' to read them, as it puts it in plain text in your reply. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar :) Sounds like a rush job ending though, which is a shame after what turns out to be a lot of padding in the series :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 So after reading it, I find my interest has waned due to the inconsistency. They never fully explain why, suddenly, the Imperium has millions of soldiers and thousands of ships available. They do explain the High Lords inaction and greed cause disunity which fragments the Imperial response but...I mean I shall list it: 1) The Imperial Fists are destroyed 2) The Imperium is utterly besieged in all segmentums 3) Terra itself is attacked, something which hasn't happened since the Heresy 4) Ullanor is attacked with a "full" response and slaughtered to a man, including a Primarch 5) Ullanor is attacked again with "all the Imperium has left" and is slaughtered to a man, again 6) Ullanor is attacked again with "all the Imperium has left" and wins Every attack is described as the "last might of the Imperium" and it gets really old, really fast. This book is basically "oh turns out we had like a hideously huge military, we should use that? Oh cool, ok Ullanor got stomped? Why didn't we start off with this, rather than wasting a Primarch? Anyone?" It seems they couldn't find a good way to merk the beast. Oh and not to mention the first attack had 10,000 Astartes, this one has 1,000 and miraculously manages to be way more effective. I guess the unity of a single Chapter can explain some of that efficacy but...come on. Same thing with the asteroid missiles, I guess. It all seemed to "plot hole-y" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drooling blood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 So after reading it, I find my interest has waned due to the inconsistency. They never fully explain why, suddenly, the Imperium has millions of soldiers and thousands of ships available. They do explain the High Lords inaction and greed cause disunity which fragments the Imperial response but...I mean I shall list it: 1) The Imperial Fists are destroyed 2) The Imperium is utterly besieged in all segmentums 3) Terra itself is attacked, something which hasn't happened since the Heresy 4) Ullanor is attacked with a "full" response and slaughtered to a man, including a Primarch 5) Ullanor is attacked again with "all the Imperium has left" and is slaughtered to a man, again 6) Ullanor is attacked again with "all the Imperium has left" and wins What a Fizzer. It began with a bang, then went all over the place, repeatedly and wimpered out. Imp fist descendants must be tough. They had companies of the founding legions there and a Primarch and a :cussload of guard. Then lost. Came back in yellow and, haha we are the bezz. I know BL authors have a problem finishing trilogies. I didnt think 6ish people would have the same problem. Then the problem sits with the boss. Gaulding is it? And lets all forget about where the Phalanx was. Must a been hanging around Inwitt or something. Or any cripples they put into service to train the next generation while on it. That doesnt seem like a servitor jerb. Its almost as if they gave up after the deathwatch selling they were doing. And said haha, Orkz are crap. Now its Khaos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Can someone explain to me (in spoiler tags) how they managed to defeat the Beast all of the sudden? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drooling blood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Stuff spoliers I think they're heads blew up. Or they suffered a case of Phalanxia. And were forgotten about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Can't wait to see how the Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors "Work Together" despite what has transpired. ..........Heresy dialed up to 11. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4530944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Can't wait to see how the Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors "Work Together" despite what has transpired. ..........Heresy dialed up to 11. I'd expect a lot of awkward silence and doilies at nanas house for tea Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4531014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Can someone explain to me (in spoiler tags) how they managed to defeat the Beast all of the sudden? They basically did the same thing they did the first time and their heads went bang. I was hoping for some kind of different tactic to win in the end but clearly I was hoping for too much! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4531307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 There is a scene where this dipstick of an imperial commander makes everyone attack the giant death orc planet with literally anything he has lying around on terra. It's like that scene in futurama when they attack omacronians war ship with the planet express and space mini vans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4531692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm reading the book...but believing it was printed is something else entirely Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4531904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm reading the book...but believing it was printed is something else entirely Is it that bad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4531954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 It was excellent! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm getting so many conflicting signals for this book, I'm torn between wanting to read it right away and holding off for another week or two. I haven't been much of a fan of Sanders' Predator, Prey and the apparent continuity issues here turn me off badly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Can someone explain to me (in spoiler tags) how they managed to defeat the Beast all of the sudden? They did exactly the same thing Koorland did, except they decided to actually bring the Imperial Navy & Imperial Guard so just kicked the Beast into lil pieces. Not sure where they came from but hey ho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm getting so many conflicting signals for this book, I'm torn between wanting to read it right away and holding off for another week or two. I haven't been much of a fan of Sanders' Predator, Prey and the apparent continuity issues here turn me off badly. For me, no issue with the actual style and substance of the novel, if it fell somewhere else in the series. I actually liked Predator, Prey also so keep that in mind. I think the substance of the book is well written with a good feel for the bad spot the Imperium finds itself in. However....it is really hard to get over the 'lets try this same thing again, again. oh look it worked.' So I don't blame Sanders, but it really seems like the series was mismanaged here at the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm amazed something like that was allowed onto the page, to be honest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I guess someone realized the plot armor switch on the Codex Astartes was turned off.Must have been awkward. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Finished it last night Feel like GW ripped me off with this one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I'm reading the book...but believing it was printed is something else entirely Is it that bad? In my opinion, and please remember this is a single posters opinion, I feel as if Battle for the Abyss barely squeaks past this book for being the worst thing GW has in print that I've read *Disclaimer: I never read the CS Goto stuff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I don't think I've met anyone who's read Goto. But seriously, that bad? The summaries I've read here do make it seem as though they've had a major lapse of sanity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I don't think I've met anyone who's read Goto. But seriously, that bad? The summaries I've read here do make it seem as though they've had a major lapse of sanity. The writing was it's usual goodness, but the actual content...the story...it's like they couldn't think of a good way to end the Beast. Hopefully we'll now be onto pure High Lords politicking, that was always my favourite part. The ork-bolter porn was ok to a point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314634-the-beast-arises/page/43/#findComment-4532702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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