Taurulf Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 So ive been thinking.........I would like to find out a bit more about the relationship between Russ & Horus. with russ being the 2nd primarch found... I would have thought they would have been closer, considering that horus had been on his own with the emperor for so many years.. he would have been eager to meet the first of his brothers. Plus with the new details coming out of Russ being actually quite calculating and reasonable and not the raging barbarian that he was previously thought to be. I can see them having a lot in common. Anyone else have any thougths on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 IIRC there is not much we know about their relationship apart from perhaps the small amount in Vengeful Spirit. Horus and Russ would surely have had a joyous meeting I would say as they have a fair bit in common if you judge them by their Legions. However it is very hard to tell, what we know of Russ' founding is that it took a few weeks before he joined his legion and they took to the GC at the frontlines. And so they would have had plenty of encounters. But lets be straight here, Russ was a bit of an aggressive brute when it came to showing off especially with his brothers if the fluff has not changed too far. So It is more than likely that the Brothers would have just kept it as commanders rather than say, what Ferrus and Fulgrim or Horus and Fulgrim had. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Both Horus and Russ were found exceptionally early, considering they are the first and second found, and the eighth found, Guilliman, was discovered about 30-35 years into the Great Crusade. That makes me think Horus and Russ were found within the first five, ten years. Horus was a kid, the only Primarch to have the advantage of being raised by the Emperor, at least in part, though it's never confirmed. Russ was an adult, according to the old Index Astartes article. Whatever their relationship, I will bet that had a hand in it. The first two, for a time the only two. But one was young and known to stick with the Emperor, and the other was older and was not known for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurulf Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Whatever their relationship, I will bet that had a hand in it. The first two, for a time the only two. But one was young and known to stick with the Emperor, and the other was older and was not known for that. Would they not all be the same age? since Cthonia was within sublight distance from Terra. Horus would have been younger when found, however russ grew up on fenris in the time between Horus being found and the emperor reaching fenris.? how I see it is.........With the info from the Wolf King where Russ says he wanted to leave Fenris as it could never support the armies that the emperor needed. but the emperor wouldnt allow it .. so he then embraced the fenrisian culture and took on the "persona" of the wolf king. This is what led me to think of his relationship with the first person he met other than the emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 since Cthonia was within sublight distance from Terra. Horus would have been younger when found, however russ grew up on fenris in the time between Horus being found and the emperor reaching fenris.? I think the time frame is too short to allow that much time inbetweeen. It's likely that Russ landed on Fenris before being cast from Terra, just like how Corax lands on Deliverance a century and a half after being cast from Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Didn't the new novella point out that Russ was isolated once he was discovered for the purpose of seperating the VI from the others for whatever purpose the Emperor had for them? It seems that the current HH Russ has his brothers that he has bonded with through the courses of battle, while others he has no connection with other then their father. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4191879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'd assume they would have gotten along pretty well, Horus had a knack for being able to adapt his personality with whomever he was currently engaging, which is why he was such a great Leader / Politician. All said, there were very few Primarchs who did not enjoy the company of the Warmaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4192008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Russ, Horus, and Ferrus were the Emperor's first generals. Fulgrim was normally with Ferrus while his legion recovered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4192020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Where does Dorn slide into this, I get the impression he's one of the more respected Primarchs by the other Primarchs, I mean Fulgrim tells him about Curze and he takes it upon himself to chastise him like an older brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4192054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Dorn was part of the late crusade triumvirate of Sanguinius, Russ, and Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4192073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurulf Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 has anyone noticed that other than Horus none of the traitor primarchs ever really had any influence with any of the others. Where as Dorn, Guilliman, Ferrus, Vulkan, Sanguinous, Russ & the Lion seem to be quite influencial Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4196817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Goat Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I would love to read about the first time Russ went into battle with his astartes. In fact any primarch for that matter...The first time they witnessed just what their genesires were capable of must have been earth shattering Back on topic...I imagine as Russ and horus clearly did not become close, that perhaps being the first two found there was a lot of posturing between the only two alphas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314646-russ-horus/#findComment-4196866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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