SM1981 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts / insight into the lack of contemptor dreadnoughts for the blood angels. As I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong here)... The chapter used to have a load of them, but due to a preference for close combat action, the amount of upheaval after the hours heresy, and depletion in combat, they were almost all wiped out. Those that were left were then gifted to the successor chapters to form a link between the future unborn space marine / blood angel decendants and the primarch / the golden history of the chapter. End result is that there are none left to be fielded by the chapter in battle, hence there are none present in the codex / army lists / etc. However... If that's right surely that leaves space for some pretty awesome BA contemptor characters to appear in successor chapter armies. Just seems like GW / FW are missing a trick there. Plus for Hours Heresy era players the models should be available anyway. Or do I have that completely wrong? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The trick is to get you to buy one of the Imperial Armour books so that you can field a 40k Contemptor. They used to have free rules to field them but I don't know if FW still has them up in the Download section. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Please read this: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/305438-imperial-armour-discussion-dreadnoughts-and-support/ :) The above link no details what we have access to and how they can be used. When FW visits Signus Prime, specific BA models will be released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Or do I have that completely wrong? Yup :) BA have as much access to contemptors as other chapters, and we even get our own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The usefulness of our own is debatable though. While it is WS5,the number of attacks is a little low and only have BS4 is sad. Also no mortis option. But you came to the BA to rip and tear anyway ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The usefulness of our own is debatable though. While it is WS5,the number of attacks is a little low and only have BS4 is sad. Also no mortis option. But you came to the BA to rip and tear anyway We have access to the Deredeo which makes lacking the Mortis option irrelevant. Also, when the IA update(s) come through, the base attacks will rise to four for our Contemptor (or three should we swap one of the fists out for a heavy weapon). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I knew both of those things. I am DERPguinius, Lord of the DERP angels. (I even have a bloody Deredeo). You have to admit though, double Kheres and Cyclone is a very nice thing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4192472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does anyone have a pdf for the rules for a BA contemptor? Can't find one online and it doesn't seem to exist on the Forge World website? Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4212437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 They're in the Forge World book, War Machines of the Adepts Astartes. Which needs an update. The rules for the 30K Contemptor have been updated - extra attack, Volkite gun. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Contemptor%20talon.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4212517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 BA Contemptor is in IA Apocalypse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4212610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 BA Contemptor is in IA Apocalypse. Yep, sadly ours are a little more limited in options, but we do get WS5! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4213177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Does anyone have a pdf for the rules for a BA contemptor? Can't find one online and it doesn't seem to exist on the Forge World website? Any help would be appreciated. That's kind of like asking for rules from the codex. If you want the contemptor rules, you have to buy them from FW! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4213593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 ... Or find them online (eventually). If anyone would like the PDF dm me with email address and I will send over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4213674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I like to field one BA Contemptor withe the Kheres Assault Cannon from time to time. In my last games VS CSM he did solid work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4213963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I like to field one BA Contemptor withe the Kheres Assault Cannon from time to time. In my last games VS CSM he did solid work. Fielded just that in Apocalypse a little while back, the heavy flamer totally rekt some plague drones as did his fist. Kheres took the final hull point from a kind of bane blade (one that shoots a load of bolt rounds from a gattling gun). Expected results, the 5+ save was great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If I remember correctly the BA Contemptor used to have the old Blood Talon rules to generate more hits? Does it still have it, or has my memory once again failed me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If I remember correctly the BA Contemptor used to have the old Blood Talon rules to generate more hits? Does it still have it, or has my memory once again failed me? No it just has access to blood talons, which as per the new codex grant shred. Sorry :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 If I remember correctly the BA Contemptor used to have the old Blood Talon rules to generate more hits? Does it still have it, or has my memory once again failed me? No it just has access to blood talons, which as per the new codex grant shred. Sorry Bugger... I really miss those old Talons . Well at least CC Contemptors still look awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If I remember correctly the BA Contemptor used to have the old Blood Talon rules to generate more hits? Does it still have it, or has my memory once again failed me? No it just has access to blood talons, which as per the new codex grant shred. Sorry Bugger... I really miss those old Talons . Well at least CC Contemptors still look awesome. Realy? the few times i used them they where underwelming. I heard storys of destroying whole ork mobs with one Blendernought but my clawed veterans only managed to die by powerclaws. :/ I want to try out a contemptor fragioso the next time. Had do buld an fragweapon arm that fits. ixzion build a great frag-cannon!http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295044-furioso-contemptor-dreadnought-with-frag-cannon/?p=3774777 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That frag cannon is amazing! Also, when the HH box set comes out it will be much easier to build one since the Contemptor multimelta will be in plastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That frag cannon is amazing! Also, when the HH box set comes out it will be much easier to build one since the Contemptor multimelta will be in plastic. Oh now that is a good point... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4214897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If I remember correctly the BA Contemptor used to have the old Blood Talon rules to generate more hits? Does it still have it, or has my memory once again failed me? No it just has access to blood talons, which as per the new codex grant shred. Sorry Bugger... I really miss those old Talons . Well at least CC Contemptors still look awesome. Realy? the few times i used them they where underwelming. I heard storys of destroying whole ork mobs with one Blendernought but my clawed veterans only managed to die by powerclaws. :/ I want to try out a contemptor fragioso the next time. Had do buld an fragweapon arm that fits. ixzion build a great frag-cannon!http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/295044-furioso-contemptor-dreadnought-with-frag-cannon/?p=3774777 Oh yes, my beloved DC dread has always been very kind to me, and has returned my trust with piles upon piles of Heretic corpses. Sure there have been times where a lucky powerfist has taken it out, but we most certainly don't speak of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4215250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 WIP: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4244960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Looking good! I have one of these to build myself. What weapons are those on yours? I'm going with the Kheres assault cannon and fist... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4244979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 He's like my contemptor, but reversed colours! VOLKITE (I think?) and Conversion beamer is pretty good actually, you get the option to snipe heavy armour far away, or clear out Hordes with Deflag + lazor blasts. PEW PEW, CHOOOOOM. http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah177/nevscorner/Snapchat-4367573661326401141_zpsxgbeajor.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314673-contemptors/#findComment-4244991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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