Ishagu Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 As you all know I'm busy working on my 30k Ultras on the side of expanding my regular 40k forces. I'm a big fan of the "Avenging son" moniker that Guilliman eventually takes. I'm thinking about doing a scouring era force instead, using the Legion rules as the codex is still not in effect. I'm curious, what armour marks would Marines be using commonly at this point? Would parts be mixed and matched like in 40k? Would mkV be unusual? Is VII in use? *Edit* corrected nickname Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 When does Guilliman take that? I've never heard him referred to as it. I think if anything I've heard it in regards to Sanguinius but not Guilliman, he doesn't seem the "angel" type. I'd wager mostly mk4. I'm not sure when 7 came in but 4 and then 3 and 6 for certain specialists. 5 is just a catch all moniker given to Mismatch parts with additional bonding studs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Avenging Son, sorry. It's late... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Ah, makes a lot more sense :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 MKVII is in full effect, but Heresy-era armor will likely remain most common. The Scouring would also probably feature more box Dreadnoughts, as the technology to restore Contemptors would likely start fading. And no choom, probably. That's a shame, but likely the truth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Ok... Would there be any limitations on the types of vehicles? As I'm planning on using Legion rules my list would include 2 Sicarans and a Deredeo. They wouldn't be a rarity at this point I'm assuming? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Oh, I've realised I've put this topic in the wrong section. Can one of the mods please move this to the Age of Darkness? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Ok... Would there be any limitations on the types of vehicles? As I'm planning on using Legion rules my list would include 2 Sicarans and a Deredeo. They wouldn't be a rarity at this point I'm assuming? Like Carnellian said, the main differences are going to be armour mark, and a shortage of volkite. The Scouring took 200 years and during that time the Imperium was probably pumping out new gear at a crazy pace to keep pushing the traitors out. The new story line The Beast Arises(I think) is about early post Scouring time and might show some of the losses in technology the Imperium had to prevent orks from getting it perhaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4193795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 MKVII is in full effect, but Heresy-era armor will likely remain most common. The Scouring would also probably feature more box Dreadnoughts, as the technology to restore Contemptors would likely start fading. And no choom, probably. That's a shame, but likely the truth. Eh, I'd imagine there would still be full use of Legion toys not available in 40k era, Choom included. Heck, I'd imagine some things being used for a long time after the scouring. But with the ability to restore or properly maintain them, they'll be forgotten relics by the 40k era. But that's 10000 years in the future. Even if the ability to reproduce were lost, exisiting pieces of hardgear didn't suddenly turn to sand. As the scouring ends, you'd no longer see mk5 armor I recon (wasn't the scouring only 7 years long?), but I imagine pretty much everything else, but in less numbers than during Heresy. Ergo, you could use legion rules even after the scouring and still make it fluffy even for UM, you'd just have to structure things like a 40k list. Limit your choom to characters, vehicles, since the codex doesn't have legion support squads, that sort of thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4200932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thanks. I intend on organising the force like a Legion, but have it as an accurate visual representation of a post heresy, pre codex army. For example I won't include any MkVIII armour. It's good to know that mkVII was in effect however. Part of my reasoning behind the Scouring idea is painting units that I can use in 40k and visa versa. I also like to add some modifications to kits like giving the MKIV marines that come with the Rapier Quad guns mkVII backpacks so they resemble 40k Marines more closely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4202269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 One word. Pissed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314718-what-would-a-scouring-era-ultramarine-force-look-like/#findComment-4202453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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