Iron Dude Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hi, testing different kinds of lists for a while and wanted to get some input on on this one. This list is not made for mealstorm. Im aiming for a gunline-army. I picked the IWs to get access to havocs and to not take moralchecks from casualties from shooting. Just so u guys know my meta is made up of tournament players (so Im encountering all kinds of cheese). Im aiming for a hard list. Regarding the Rules: We have agreed on using LACAL and ICL, so Cataphractii S&P confers to its unit. If I made any mistakes reagarding other rules, pls point it out. In my gaming community cataphrakti SnP confers to unitmembers. This is not a SnP discussion. Onslaught Detachment HQ Centurion - Cataphractii, Powerfist, Combibolter Centurion - Master of Signal, CCW, Boltpistol Troops Legion Tac Squad, 9 Marines, 1 Sarge Elite Mortis Dreadnought - 2 Tl Lascannons Mortis Dreadnought - 2 Tl Lascannons 2 Thudguns (one or 2 squads Im not sure) Heavy Support Iron Havocs - 9 Havocs with Autocannons; 1 Sarge with Autocannon and Arti Armour Legion Predator Squad - Legion Preadator - Predator Cannon, Pintle: Heavy Bolter, Sponson: Heavy Bolter, (Shrapnelbolts if needed) Legion Preadator - Predator Cannon, Pintle: Heavy Bolter, Sponson: Heavy Bolter, (Shrapnelbolts if needed) Legion Preadator - Predator Cannon, Pintle: Heavy Bolter, Sponson: Heavy Bolter, (Shrapnelbolts if needed) Spartan Assault Tank - Flareshield, (Shrapnelbolts if needed) Whirlwind Scorpius Points: 1850 Thoughts on the list: Well its a gunlinearmy. The havocs will hide in the Spartan since my oppenent will have the first turn. In my turn they get out of the Spartan to to put out 20 S7 shots hitting on 2s with tankhunter (master of signal). Generally I rather cause lots of wounds, instead making 3 or 4 wounds that my opponent can ignore thanks to some good coversaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Looks like you're short a compulsory troop choice and have one more heavy support choice than allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Dude Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Im using the Onslaught FOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Ah gotcha, missed that, well in that case the only thing I would worry about is the Iron Havocs. If they are starting in the spartan, then that means Turn 2 at the earliest that they'll be able to fire at normal ballistic skill. Plus it means you're gonna have to deploy that spartan somewhere near an ideal overwatch position for them and that it probably won't be shooting effectively until turn 2 either. Something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 As OP mentioned, he is running a Cataphractii Centurion in the unit for Slow & Purposeful, so they can disembark 1st turn and unleash their autocannon shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 As OP mentioned, he is running a Cataphractii Centurion in the unit for Slow & Purposeful, so they can disembark 1st turn and unleash their autocannon shots. Oh I didn't know he was putting both HQ's in the Havoc Squad. In that case, carry on. Should ruin a lot of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Cataphractii slow and purposefull does not jump on other units. Look in the FAQ for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Is there a new FAQ? Or are we still talking about the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 He means the old Betrayal one. I'm inclined to think it still stands, but people have differing opinions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yeah I remember the thread, but it got shut down right in the middle of the discourse. I don't think any real consensus was ever reached. It's hard because on one hand, Orks use SnP all the time to get "relentless" lootas, however I'm guessing they didn't want that in HH games since you can have 10 lascannons firing at BS4 and marching around like it's no big thing (which it isn't because they are energy weapons with no recoil). But I digress. I think this one comes down to house rules. Talk with your buddies, tell them the implications of unit combinations you are using and see if they are cool with it. If they are then who cares what the forum, ForgeWorld, or almighty GW say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Dude Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Cataphractii slow and purposefull does not jump on other units. Look in the FAQ for that. He means the old Betrayal one. I'm inclined to think it still stands, but people have differing opinions here. Guys it doesnt matter if u think that betrayal still stands. Its a decission of my gaming community. SnP is not up for debate. So it doesnt matter if u think its right or wrong. I will edit y first post since it seems to misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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