ElectricPaladin Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Our latest Sororitas codex didn't give us any formations (except for some that are clearly designed for Apocalypse), and that's a shame. Just for fun, let's try to make up a couple of formations of our own. Maybe we can convince some folks to playtest them with us (I, for one, will be playing some narrative games with someone who I'm almost certain would be happy to play with weird homebrew rules, as long as we make an effort to balance them). Here are my thoughts on the "categories" I think we should fill: A couple of formations that are ideal for slotting into another army (ie. the "taste this - it's delicious" formations). A couple of formations for representing some specific details of Sisters background. Maybe a formation for one of the more unusual Orders, or a particular battle. A formation or two with units from other armies, representing the Sisters connections to the Inquisition and other branches of the Imperium (for example: the Guard). One or two formations designed to make something sub-optimal a little more useful. Remember - you can always balance an overpowered formation by adding in some chaff units, but the goal is to invent some formations that are usable outside of Apoc, so there's a limit to how far we can take that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Holy TrinityThree Retributor squads, one each armed with 4 of multi-melta, heavy bolter, heavy flamerThey may attempt an Act of Faith three times rather than the usual one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4196949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Sororitas Meta-detachment; Mission 1 Ecclesiastical Mithraeum 1-3 Combined Arms Detachments 1-2 Fussilade of the Emperor's Wrath 1-2 Penitent Crusades Onwards to Victory!: Every model in the Mission may reroll any dice when making Run, Flat Out or Assault moves. Stop for Nothing: Every model in the Mission gains the Relentless special rule.[/b] Sororitas 'Taster' formation; Fusillade of the Emperor's Wrath 3 9-strong Dominion Squads with Simulacrums Imperialis 3 Priests 3 Repressors Nowhere to Hide: When the formation enters play from Reserve, it may choose to enter from any table edge. Banner of Wrath: All models in the formation improve their Invulnerable save by 2, to a maximum of 3+. Ecclesiastical Mithraeum 1-2 Canonesses 5 Ecclesiastical Priests 1-3 Sororitas Command Squads 0-5 Ecclesiastical Battle Conclaves True Faith: Any unit joined by a model from the Mithraeum gains the Shield of Faith special rule, or improves its Shield of Faith save by 1 if it already has it. Liturgy: Models in the Mithraeum take all leadership tests against a Leadership score of 10. Making a mediocre unit better; Penitent Crusade 1-3 10-strong squads of Repentia 1-3 3-strong squadrons of Penitent Engines Shriving: If a model from the Penitent Crusade is destroyed or killed in close combat before it attacks, it may make its full number of attacks immediately before being removed. Forgiveness: For every unsaved wound lost hull point suffered by a unit from the Penitent Crusade, all models in the unit increase their base attacks characteristic by 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Some of those seem a little bit too strong, but I like the theming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Too strong compared to the Reclamation Legion? Or the AdMech free everything formation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Too strong compared to the Reclamation Legion? Or the AdMech free everything formation? but the admech free everything formation is too frenetic to actually be that effective, and yeah, I feel it is stronger than rec legion: relentless on necrons is annoying, relentless on sisters is absolutely terrifying to be honest, the scariest formation is the eldar one, because it allows wraithknight spam Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Relentless on Sisters only really effects Retributor squads though - everyone else is running assault weapons anyway? Although I guess it would double our melta threat range. ^^; Although not for the scariest melta units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Relentless on Sisters only really effects Retributor squads though - everyone else is running assault weapons anyway? Although I guess it would double our melta threat range. ^^; Although not for the scariest melta units. It also allows assault after bolter double tap, which opens up completely new threats from sisters, as they will kill many xenos in an assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Assault Sisters? What? WHAT? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sisters already ARE a threat in assault! I don't see anything in Miko's ideas that is any more powerful then most of the existing formations that already exist. They seem fine to me. Relentless really doesn't add too much other then allowing Multi-meltas to actually be a decent choice on infantry for once. I think an extra 12" range isn't gonna be too extreme in this day and age! :p Repentant Host: 1-3 units of Repentia (full size squads) 1-3 squadrons of 3 Penitent Engines Penitent Engine Squadrons and Repenita units in this formation can take a priest upgrade as part of their wargear. Penitent Engine Squadrons in this formation have the 'It will not die' special rule. Once per game: any Repentia units in this formation cannot be overwatched against when they launch an assault. All models in this formation gain the 'Move through cover' special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Assault Sisters? What? WHAT? 20 Battle Sisters, Veteran Superior (Power Axe, Bolt Pistol), 2x Meltagun, 2 Priests (Power Mauls, 1 Litanies) 44 attacks on the charge, rerolling to hit, wound and save with a 3+/6++. Fearless. Throw in the Sacred Standard of the Orders Militant nearby and that jumps up to 66 attacks on the charge with rerolls on everything. Even T4 enemies find that scary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Assault Sisters? What? WHAT? 20 Battle Sisters, Veteran Superior (Power Axe, Bolt Pistol), 2x Meltagun, 2 Priests (Power Mauls, 1 Litanies) 44 attacks on the charge, rerolling to hit, wound and save with a 3+/6++. Fearless. Throw in the Sacred Standard of the Orders Militant nearby and that jumps up to 66 attacks on the charge with rerolls on everything. Even T4 enemies find that scary. I actually used this exact unit without the upgrades in a recent game. The banner made it a lot of fun and they sure as hell didn't want to charge me for all of the overwatch it would cause. Even 9 sisters with a single priest is enough to deal with Space Marines on the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Excorsist flamestorm formation. 3 Excorsist: As long as all Excorsists in the formation are capable of shooting they are allowed to re-roll 1 dice for 1 tanks to see how many missiles each fire, in addition if they roll a total of 10 or more missiles they may instead use a an 5" blast instead of firing each missile, this blast is a Range 48" Strength7 ap 1 5" blast. If you dont have such a blast mark a model and everyone in 5" is hit by the attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Heh. Just to show you that I can be utterly ridiculous; Storm of the Emperor's Wrath 1-3 Ecclesiastical Priests 1+ 20-strong Battle Sister squads Zealous Acrimony: Battle Sister squads accompanied by a Priest all gain the benefits of The Emperor's Strength War Hymn when it is activated by any Priest in the unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sisters already ARE a threat in assault! -snip- This was basically why I thought every unit gets relentless was a little overkill. Heh. Just to show you that I can be utterly ridiculous; Storm of the Emperor's Wrath 1-3 Ecclesiastical Priests 1+ 20-strong Battle Sister squads Zealous Acrimony: Battle Sister squads accompanied by a Priest all gain the benefits of The Emperor's Strength War Hymn when it is activated by any Priest in the unit. wouldn't that make them all AP2....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Yes, that's why it's ridiculous. Utterly insane. Actually, to make it more insane, give them Rage. That way they can, with a banner, get two S6AP2 attacks each when charging. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 -snip- as long as we make an effort to balance them -snip- Since the OP asked for this, that was why I was bringing it up. I would suggest maybe one turn of relentless for the first thing, and rage or furious charge statically instead of extending smash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4197880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The Smash Everything formation was in no way intended to be a serious suggestion, lol. How about swapping Relentless for just Move and Shoot, with no change to Charging? I would say Slow and Purposeful, but then that would prevent Overwatch and be a nerf instead of a buff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4198036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I would say let them shoot the turn they leave their transports as if they didn't move. Maybe move and shoot totally would work, but it still seems like a dangerous thing to give an army already stocked to the brim with heavy weapon infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4198117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 See, I don't see us as being that heavy weapon centric - we can take double special weapons, but only one heavy weapon in a squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4198214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 See, I don't see us as being that heavy weapon centric - we can take double special weapons, but only one heavy weapon in a squad. except retributors... I think relentless would be fine for the other units, but on potentially many units of retributors concerns me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314904-madeup-rules-adepta-sororitas-formations/#findComment-4198509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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