Gpsman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hello everyone! I have a question regarding auto glancing and penetrating hits, are they possible? In the rules its states that a shot will always miss on a 1 but if i have a lascannon S9 and and i am shooting at something with armor 10 I roll to hit as normal but as a roll can never be better then a 2+ is it possible for me to glance on a one or will I miss. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I believe it is possible. Basically those rolls are just to see if you glance or penetrate. Ill have to find it in the rules section when I get home Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4197276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarHughes Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 you roll a D6 and add your weapon strength. ST10 demolisher cannon against armor 10 before the die roll means a glance, and your smallest roll is a 1. ST11 against armor 10 is a pen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4197282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 There is no "auto" roll in 40k or its fantasy equivalent, whatever that is now. I see the example given above but you still have to roll because if you roll a 1, you miss. You could have a Demolisher Cannon firing against a whatever no more than 10 feet away but if you roll that 1, well, I guess the shot veers off course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4197862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Only in so far as you can't fail to penetrate so there's no point in rolling the die, for example a Demolisher firing against an AV10 vehicle will always penetrate should it hit. Auto-glancing could only be a rules thing, as otherwise you'd be rolling a D6 (or more) and getting an auto penetrate instead ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4197957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukash_ Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Rolls of 1 autofail if it's a save, to hit/to wound, or a characteristic test. Armor pens can roll 1 and still glance/pen. (And then you get to the D table.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4198018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 yes - separate the two things. A to hit roll of a 1 always misses. A roll to see if you penetrate armour is simply a d6 + S total, and any roll on that d6 is a valid/acceptable roll, producing the final total amount of armour that shot penetrates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4198032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpsman Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thank you all for your help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4198068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Yes, auto "at least glancing"/penetrating are possible. However i think that this is something weird according to the behaviour of all other rolls. I mean, you are the most skilled shooter (BS 10) and you have still a chanche to miss, or you have the strongest weapon (STR D) and you alwais have a good chance (1/6 is not a small chance) to not to wound even the weakest crature, or you have those strong weapons (S10) shooting at a weak T2 model and still have a chanche to do nothing (really nothing) BUT against a stronger thing (a rhino) you auto glance! I think that a new rule is needed: a roll of 1 when checking for armour penetrating is alwais a fail (or is not counted in the result if adding multiple dice, melta, armourbane etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4198190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 ~facepalm~ 1. Roll to hit. S9 has nothing to do with this. If you hit: 2. Roll to pen. S9 against AV10 means you automatically at least glance. 2+ is a penetrating hit. "ones always fail" does not apply to this roll! If you penetrate: 3. Roll on the damage table, applying all applicable modifiers to the result. 4. Apply the result. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4199731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phubar Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 March you didnt understood my reply. I know how it works but i think that this is not coherent with all other aspects of the game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4200414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 messed up, The facepalm was not directed at you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314931-auto-glancepen-questions/#findComment-4204371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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