LutherMax Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I pronounce it "Baaal", or "Barl" I suppose. But I've heard other peeps (mainly in YouTube batreps etc) pronounce it "Ball", or "Bael". It's a symptom of the English language, in most other European languages there is only one way to pronounce a word based on the letters used, and no confusion. But I guess that's what makes English fun :D So, what's the consensus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjr Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Baaaaaaaaaaahhhhl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Seeing the biblical/hell-theme some BA names have, e.g. Dante (from Dante's Inferno), Mephiston (from Mephisto) and Astorath (from Sodom and Gomorrah), I'm guessing Baal is from the demon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_%28demon%29 Which is pronounced as /ˈbeɪl/ or 'BAYL'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Bail, like what you have to pay to get out of jail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Huh, so I've been saying it wrong. I say it like tjr, "Baaaaahhhl" but what you say Redemption makes sense. I wonder why they didn't make the spelling more explicit... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I know it's wrong, but I can't shake the Baaaaaaahl pronunciation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I do like my predecessors in Stargate SG-1. Which is "Bahl". Reason being is because the actual, normal spelling is supposed to be Ba'al, which makes the pronunciation "Ba-ahl". Although more fluid so it's actually more like "Bahl". What happens is that circa Rennaissance era, the term was Italianicized(is that the right term?) into Baal(Bayl) and in the Anglicized versions of the word, the apostrophe is dropped so it is spelled Baal, but still pronounced "Bahl". So it's like the whole R'as(Rawz)vsR'as(Raysh) argument, which is both are right and flies down to which dialect of Arabic you are speaking. Besides, even the director of BtAS said he used the wrong pronunciation and it should be Rawz. :P So all of the various pronunciations are correct, but until an audiobook comes out, it is personal interpretation. Although they could always do like DC and throw in all of the various pronunciations just to screw with people. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnosaur93 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 i actually did a fair amount of research on this a few years back, and eventually found my way onto some bible-forum thing where this very same thing was discussed (Baal being a biblical demon as previously mentioned and all). the verdict was that both "bael" and "baahl" are actually correct, and either is fine however if you had to choose one, "bael" would kinda have to be it, based on the name being a shortened version of "beelzebub", which is pronounced either "Beehlzebub" or "baelzebub", the "bael" part being in common here between the names making it more likely that it is indeed the original/correct pronunciation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 This and Chaplain. Ba-Al is how its always escaped my mouth and for those curious Chap-laine...don't ask.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I say, and always have said, Baaarl. Although I have religious friends who say Bayl (Bayl). That said, I say Tyranids as one would say tyrant. Not tiranids as some do... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Well, most do; I've never heard anyone say it like Tyrant (even if that would some sort of sense), even in the various video games and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I mostly pronounce it as Bhaal in Throne of Bhaal, sometimes with two syllables Ba-ahl. Bale just sounds stupid IMHO, but I could get on board with Baël. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-smuv Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I use "Bale" because "Ball" means I have to say "Ball Predator" and that reminds me of my ex wife. *rimshot* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 How does one pronounce naan bread? The noise a sheep makes? Bazaar? I pronounce it Barl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 How does one pronounce naan bread? Peshwari The noise a sheep makes? Baar Bazaar? Ba zaar I pronounce it Barl. Baarl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't get where the R in Barl is coming from though? I can get the standpoints of Bayl vs Ball vs Baahl, but adding an R just sounds weird. Or is this some pronunciation key I'm unaware of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 It's phonetic - there isnt actually an 'r' there, it just makes the same sound, just the same as the 'Y' in your suggested 'Bayl' :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I pronounce it as Ball. In the Black Library audio drama Herald of Sanguinius the voice actor playing Azkaellon pronounces it as "Ball" as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 It's much like how people from different towns pronounce "a" when saying something like, "I have a way." Some people pronounce it with the hard a, so "ay" Some people pronounce it like "uh." English can't decide on a sound for the exact same word so it's not a big deal XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 This thread has made me forget how I pronounce it. I am now confused. D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Ba'al or ball http://static.sfdict.com/staticrep/dictaudio/B00/B0000700.mp3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4198836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Maybe the Primus and Secondus moons use the different pronunciations of Baal, then everyone is correct! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4199455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 If it's named after the demon then it's bayl. Not really any ambiguity there, other pronunciations come from not knowing this origin of the name or its pronunciation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4199489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-soul Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 If it's named after the demon then it's bayl. Not really any ambiguity there, other pronunciations come from not knowing this origin of the name or its pronunciation. The case is that despite the obviosity of relations warhammer uses this in manner as recent Ghost keel. Because they can't simply write Ghost kill. So they slightly shift all that obvious connections. So I personaly prefer to pronounce Ba-al just to separate this termins. And there is some local thing that in my language Baal (beelzebub) is actually pronounced from V - Vaal (Veel zevul) wich is closer to arabic/hebrew origin where the first word sound in two parts ( Hebrew: בַּעַל זְבוּב, Baʿal Zəvûv; Arabic: بعل الذباب, Ba‘al adh-Dhubāb) But for proper english style its bael (like Christian Bale but with softer L :) ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4199592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 But for proper english style its bael (like Christian Bale but with softer L ) Is that English English or American English? Because if it's English English, then it changes "proper" to mean a different sort of English than American English's "proper" would imply about the proper English pronunciation. That last proper was meant in American English, for all you English English whom may be reading. I have way too much fun writing goofy crap like that. Although re-reading it now, it may still be too easy to follow But the key point is this is a very, very old word being adopted to our modern, silly accents. In odd cases like this, I'm willing to roll with 'Baahl' and 'Bael' alike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/#findComment-4199603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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