Xenith Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The case is that despite the obviosity of relations warhammer uses this in manner as recent Ghost keel. Because they can't simply write Ghost kill. So they slightly shift all that obvious connections. Apart from the 'keel' is part of the hull of a ship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I've always pronounced it "Bar-l", as "aa" isn't really a native English combination, so I tend to default to the most usually encountered source of "aa", which are Dutch (or Afrikaans) loan words. However, my ancient Semitic scholarship isn't great, so I'm happy to be advised! "Bael" to my eyes could be pronounced "bile", if following Classical Latin (or Sindarin...) conventions. I'm slightly obsessed with the vagaries of English vowel sounds at present, as I'm helping my five year old learn to read. Oh, the fun I anticipate when we get to "ough"... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Diablo 2 pronounces it as Bale, and that was the first time I think I'd heard it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ7KgW_yi3E Also, Tyriel is pronounced like an I, which is how I pronounce Tyranids. As a side note, I think it would be awesome to have a scene like that in 40k. In the end, I think it comes down to person. There probably isn't a "wrong" way to say it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Tyranid is definitely meant to be tyrant or tyranic since way back. Never understood "tearanids" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 When talking about the Blood Angels home world I say ball. When talking about the StarGate character I say ball. When talking about the ancient deity I say bale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Tyranid is definitely meant to be tyrant or tyranic since way back. Never understood "tearanids" So if you live in tyranny (tear-any) then it's a tear-ant behind the power? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 This should explain how we should pronounce Tyranid. It is straight from Games Workshop. It's in the first few seconds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 That was an interesting pronunciation of Hivefleet Behemoth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4199964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 That was an interesting pronunciation of Hivefleet Behemoth.I've heard it that way before. But not often... And I suppose that settles it for tyranids... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4200410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think it is a British vs American thing. The former say BAY-heh-moth and the latter Be-HEE-moth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4200508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I pronounce it more like buh-him-oth, not stressing the hell out of the E in the middle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4200764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukimimaru Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I've always pronounced it Bharl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4200957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I always say Baaaahl, as in Baaahls to the waaaaahl when I throw my tanks around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4201003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 In standard British English, "ball" is pronounced "borl" rather than "bahl", which just demonstrates how complicated this discussion gets without having the International Phonetic Alphabet available on my 'phone. Oh and I tend to say "tie-rannids", like "tie-rant" (but say "tirrany"). Definitely some Br Eng vs Am Eng pronunciation issues here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4201320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 In standard British English, "ball" is pronounced "borl" rather than "bahl", which just demonstrates how complicated this discussion gets without having the International Phonetic Alphabet available on my 'phone. Oh and I tend to say "tie-rannids", like "tie-rant" (but say "tirrany"). Definitely some Br Eng vs Am Eng pronunciation issues here. Well I posted earlier how GW (the English guy) pronounced Tyranids, and it's the same way as every American I've heard pronounce it (but I'm from Oklahoma, so we don't exactly pronounce things the same, either). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4201487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent in Korea Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think the best answer is to go ahead and ask Rick Priestly. The guy creating it and his intention is more important than some product like an audiodrama that they wouldn't bother checking over. GW probably don't even care and would say while rolling their eyes that both are fine... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4201524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Well, this topic has proved unexpectedly fascinating, and has opened up a veritable linguistic can of worms! As RedemptionNL said way back in the second reply, I think it's a safe bet that the name comes from the Demon Baal, considering the similarity to other naming conventions associated with Blood Angels (Dante, Mephiston etc). The Wikipedia page states that name should be pronounced: beɪl / BAYL (just like most English-speaking people would pronounce "bail", as in getting out of jail) As written, I would (and do) pronounce it differently: "bahl", or "barl" – it's difficult to know how people will interpret the phonetics but hopefully you know what I mean. The third camp seems to be those who pronounce it "borl" – the same as ball as in (foot)ball. This jars with me – too many potential innuendos! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4201795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Barl throws me off because ar makes the are sound here. Borl makes the or sound here. So I think that's why I am having trouble understanding those two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4202121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 I guess the best phonetics are: - Bahl - Bayl - Ball Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4202192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 With the IPA, I'd say 'bɐl' or 'bʌl' are the closest. (This is an excellent resource for anyone wanting to learn or use the IPA btw; http://www.paulmeier.com/consonants/) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314981-pronunciation-of-baal/page/2/#findComment-4202475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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