Calas Typhon Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I am having a bit of trouble in all honesty. I am looking to sort out a Death Guard force and am pretty drawn towards the 1st Great Company, partially because I have right next to me a fair amount of Death Guard upgrade packs and a Calas Typhon model still in the box. The problem is: Did the 1st Great Company only field more Veteran/Terminator/Specialist like other Legions and chapters, or were they more varied when it came down to what units were included. I am aware that the Grave Wardens were mostly linked to the 1st Company, but I can find very little information on what else was included in the 1st Great Companies make up. I have searched for information on this subject for a few days with little to go on. I will more than likely (providing there is no information) run it as a normal company anyway with more emphasis on Terminator and Veteran squads, but I would ideally want to make something as fluff ridden as possible! Also somewhat off topic. Lets be brutally honest, Calas Typhon is an absolute beast in the fluff pre Heresy and beyond. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I assume a healthy mix of Veteran squads and various flavors of Terminators. But nothing stops you from giving them support from other companies (as the 1st Company would not likely deploy en masse, certainly not without support). As always, add whatever you want to your army. The fluff will bend to your will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4198749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I definitely think a Pride of the Legion list is where you want to be basing it as suggested, and will look superbly cohesive! I would imagine this, if anything, is most suited to the Death Guard... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4198774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The DG first company was several thousand Marines, ill wager they can field anything youd care to :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4198802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The First Great Company of the XIVth was Typhon's own. I'm sure while ultimately Mortarion was at the top, Typhon was given a long leash in how his Company waged campaigns, and it seems it would have been a great deal of purgation & ship boarding actions. Grave Wardens are a First Company only thing, it seems, as they were his Terminator Elite. Veterans would make up a large number of the rank and file (I can see the First Captain poaching from the other Companies, as would be his right). Destroyers would probably be another common sight, along with Cataphractii and Contemptors. You may even be able to throw some Seekers in as an Assassin unit used to eliminate an enemy Warboss / Exarch / god only knows what. Wargear would be the best that could be obtained. Obviously anything Chemical, Flame, or Phosphex oriented, but also Graviton and Volkite weaponry. If we're talking void warfare, Breachers would be the rank and file (just wish these guys kept the Veteran options like the original "typo"). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4198872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Bear in mind the DG only had a small number of companies. And they had over a hundred thousand legionnaires. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the first companies are all like their Chapter counterparts. Whilst it being Typhon's command would certainly predicate a significant core of veteran troops in one for or another they'd have all branches of Legion warfare covered. Hardly likely that Typhon would allow his men to be caught short with anything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4199757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Thanks for the information to all above, I pretty much figured it would be the case that the options would not be limited, especially with the numbers in each company. Plan on getting my DG force sorted when the next batch of FW gear comes in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4200531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterGrim Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 The First Great Company of the XIVth was Typhon's own. I'm sure while ultimately Mortarion was at the top, Typhon was given a long leash in how his Company waged campaigns, and it seems it would have been a great deal of purgation & ship boarding actions. Grave Wardens are a First Company only thing, it seems, as they were his Terminator Elite. That's not actually true, there were Grave Wardens in each of the 7 Great Company's. At least one named Grave Warden was in the 7th under Garro. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Holy threadomancy, Batman! In the description of Grave Wardens from FW themselves, they are listed as Typhon's elite Terminators and of First Grand Company. If that's changed since Massacre, I do not know. Certainly if it's in a BL book I have no knowledge of it, as I'm thoroughly disappointed in how they have written the XIVth as of late. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Actually the unit description for Grave Wardens in Massacre said it *originally* referred to the 'variously armed' (ie: all) Terminator Battalions of the First Company, but subsequently came to refer to the alchemical-weapon equipped Terminators 'unique to the Death Guard' (as opposed to being unique to the First Company) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s602/Kroeger_/20160327_134649_zpstys0lhhz.jpg sooooooooonnnnnnnnn (also ignore the Iron Warriors shoulders) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Actually the unit description for Grave Wardens in Massacre said it *originally* referred to the 'variously armed' (ie: all) Terminator Battalions of the First Company, but subsequently came to refer to the alchemical-weapon equipped Terminators 'unique to the Death Guard' (as opposed to being unique to the First Company)I guess... I'd see them more widespread after their betrayal and usage of chemical and biological weaponry significantly increased. Prior to that, I don't see them outside of First Grand Company much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (also ignore the Iron Warriors shoulders) I can't, not now you pointed it out... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4347487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterGrim Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Holy threadomancy, Batman! In the description of Grave Wardens from FW themselves, they are listed as Typhon's elite Terminators and of First Grand Company. If that's changed since Massacre, I do not know. Certainly if it's in a BL book I have no knowledge of it, as I'm thoroughly disappointed in how they have written the XIVth as of late. "Alone among the Legiones Astartes, the Death Guard make free and frequent use of alchemical weapons. These are deployed by specialised units outfitted in modified Cataphractii Terminator Armour; the Grave Wardens being the most renowned and feared of these harbingers of death." "Originally used as an informal name for the variously armed battalions of Death Guard Terminators of Calas Typhon's company carried aboard the battleship Terminus Est, the term 'Grave Wardens' also eventually became synonymous both within the Death Guard Legion and beyond it, specifically for the alchemical-weapon equipped Terminators unique to the Death Guard." I can see where this might catch someone out but not all Grave Wardens are in the 1st Great Company... There is a single named Grave Warden called Koloth Vorr in Conquest (pg.154) who is in the 7th Great Company (Garro's company)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314994-the-death-guards-1st-great-company/#findComment-4366809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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