m_r_parker Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hi All, I know some people are interested in this, and I didn't want to to clutter the 40k Open Day thread in the News forum, so here's a dedicated thread for anybody wanting a closer look at the kits and instructions. In order not to have a wall of pictures, I've put them in spoiler tags - open the ones that you want to see. First off - both of these kits are White Box kits (comes in a white cardboard box, containing a bag wrapped in bubble-wrap), the quality of the casting is great, and there are very detailed instructions. From the instructions it's obvious that both of the kits have been developed through CAD, and it's reflected in the clean and crisp detailing on the casts. First off - the Leviathan Dread: Instructions: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/8EDFFEE2-5A75-4412-9F39-77D8327D44AF_zps9l2une0x.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/87B9486E-1EF9-4CF2-BAAB-E752D105EDF4_zpsofzj8s9s.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/4EB332D1-42C3-4D44-9FDD-3334037F31F1_zps1f5jk9nx.jpg Components: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/07ABB0AE-B95A-4D99-B0C2-7452BC0680CB_zps4nqytcsq.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/51C4EEA9-2F79-494C-AAAC-FBAF6254C4A5_zpscwotzxiy.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/010F57B8-B96D-4C55-AC09-674FB5D32BA2_zpskquqrozd.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/ACC96637-4204-4F90-B7AF-952BC4656F49_zpsfh5upzug.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/282AB135-3289-40F7-8780-089A7503FF8A_zpsjnczmem5.jpg Siege Claw: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/5CD6BD9E-388D-423D-B3DD-E6805735D3F5_zpsqcrkihtk.jpg Siege Drill: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/BD1B1535-AAD3-43C5-8FE2-C35AF20BFFFF_zpsck4dmhpj.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/687ACD24-1E83-4F72-82D5-902987CD21A9_zpskx874qwe.jpg Cerastus Knight Atrapos: Instructions: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/25E036D1-6ABE-47CD-B89E-82460B73FFF9_zpszivj7sya.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/30B7083E-06DB-4949-934E-3C226F5202BF_zpsjef022tj.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/19D33AD8-5940-468B-9A79-C6801ADE9488_zpsdl7nvob8.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/5EBC0F07-1665-4F5A-A5BB-74E447F3E7D6_zpssowp4sic.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/9FF151D2-4CC3-4575-AC0E-9F4A7A540034_zpsq5k1zqra.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/DEF3827E-3961-4E94-9BE6-F282EB87E536_zpsh4pngw6i.jpg Components: I've only done the first batch of them, as the others are more generic Cerastus components. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/56F105C7-C71A-4A75-A477-CC9638E152FE_zpsrptf0v2i.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/A392045E-2B6B-4D94-9B90-DDAC10F3F48C_zpsqoxc0xr6.jpg Atrapos Lascutter: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/715842AF-54FA-4D35-B735-1CDE080EA0FF_zpstqenuygl.jpg Graviton Cannon: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/FA304223-2C5F-40AA-98FA-2CF1B8123950_zpsin6iwtbo.jpg Other Components: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/40k%20Open%20Day%202015/E1133D0A-897A-4113-8D9C-984AAFC524E6_zps9i2mz3dj.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 So, if i see it right - the Leviathan is basically the Ironclad version of the Deredeo? Looks like they share the same legs, but a different body^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think those legs are quite different looking from the Deredeo actually. They share a similiar feet design, but i think the Eddy has more of a forward toe, where this one has the side toes more towards the middle? At any rate, the knees are different, and this one has more of an upper leg than the Eddy. Upper torso appears to look like a heavily modified and armored Contemptor chassis, where the extra armor, interestingly enough, ends up making the torso reminiscent of the mkIV Castra Ferrum. All in all, I'm quite enamored by the design, and will be picking one up. In the meantime I can't wait to see you put yours together, Parker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I think if we were to do comparisons, I think it's more comparable to the contemptor than the Deredeo. It does come on a 80mm base instead of a standard 60mm Dreadnought base, but the legs are the same height if a bit stockier. I might hold off building it until we get the great Grav Cannon arm, although I might see how it handles magnets on the arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I do like these new bad boys, and in particular the tonk dread , but could you give a price for the dread Mr. Parker, please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Price is 46 for the body, and 13 each for the arms if I remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Cheers, not too bad I suppose. Might have to put together a decent crimbo order for myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 An optional Phosphex bomb launcher can be added to the upper body? Psh, please! I take my Heresy with all the horrific weapons, thank you very much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4200755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi, thanks for sharing these - hugely useful, and has definitely given me food for thought. Could you tell me if Contemptor arms would fit on the Leviathan shoulders? Would they scale well, or look ridiculously weedy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4201650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'll try and take a lok tonight, pretty sure i still have an unassembled Fist Contemptor that I can use the arms with. It feels like it should be a good fit size wise - I don't see it being any taller than a regular Conemptor chassis, just a bit wider in the torso and legs. The thing will be around a) whether you're looking at replacing the weapons below the pauldron, I think they would fit well. or b) whether you're looking to replace the pualdron too, which I think would fit, but may look odd against the rest of the chassis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4201696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Must admit, I much prefer how the Leviathan looks without the phosphex bomb launcher - something about its silhouette I wonder what it'd look like if you substituted the central phosphex launcher for the two missile pods from the FW Ironclad body, one on each 'pauldron' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4202990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hi, thanks for sharing these - hugely useful, and has definitely given me food for thought. Could you tell me if Contemptor arms would fit on the Leviathan shoulders? Would they scale well, or look ridiculously weedy? It seems ForgeWorld has done some degree of comparison between the different Dreadnought chassis as part of their Bulletin today: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources//fw_site/fw_blogs/2015/10/22/DSFHGE68798OLJ45R/pic1_lrg.jpg I'll have to see if I can get mine assembled this weekend and whether the arms are going to look small - based on the above I'd say they would Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4203921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hmm I have to change my mind on this. The leviathan looks way better than a contemptor or the fridge on legs. SoH contemptor still blows everything away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4203968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 *snip* I'll have to see if I can get mine assembled this weekend and whether the arms are going to look small - based on the above I'd say they would I believe this to be an understatement to say the least. Look at how massive the claw compares to Chuck's fist! Must admit, I much prefer how the Leviathan looks without the phosphex bomb launcher - something about its silhouette I wonder what it'd look like if you substituted the central phosphex launcher for the two missile pods from the FW Ironclad body, one on each 'pauldron' Might work? Also, perhaps you could put the phosphex somewhere else if you don't want it in the center, its pretty compact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4204679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DistroyA Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Damn. It certainly looks bigger than the usual dreadnought. No wonder it comes on a bigger base. I definitely need to get my hands on one. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4205036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Thanks for the comparison shot, and that RG dread at the end is very tidy too. Any idea when this goes to retail? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4205484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It's due to be around 3 weeks after the open day so possibly next Friday? Would you be kind enough to show the sides and rear of the claw arm please as I'm a moron and can't figure out fully where the wires and the two single plates go :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4211818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's due to be around 3 weeks after the open day so possibly next Friday? Would you be kind enough to show the sides and rear of the claw arm please as I'm a moron and can't figure out fully where the wires and the two single plates go Hey - not a problem, but it'll have to wait until tomorrow when the light is better. I'm assembling at the moment, and I've been scratching my head for a while too, and the detailed instructions that come with the main body don't include the weapons, and the clampack the weapons come in don't have instructions. I did however take some rough shots in bad light, but I think I have figured it all out. These are the parts that are part of this: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/6F606222-1829-40F5-A4E6-6DA34A3C2867_zpswscbckeh.jpg (don't blame me for what the components are lying on, we all have to wash our resin and these are the spare tea-towels I wrap them in to dry them off - leave me alone :p ) The confusing parts are the the two sets of cables and the two mirrored panels on the top sprue. That is until you realise that these arms can be mounted on either side of the Leviathan, and you only use one set of these depending on what side you're mounting the arm on. if you flip that top sprue over you can see a raised profile over the mirrored panels, and these correspond to the rear facing panel on the shoulder with the ball joint that attaches to the main body. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/0C1BC24E-C4C0-4EEC-89D9-8CFFEF0A15F6_zps1srp5sdl.jpg Those vents have a long thin recessed area along the bottom that align to one end of the cable bundle. The other end of the bundle that is more oval-ish goes into the circular piece that forms the wrist with the chosen hand (drill or claw). I'm guessing that either you want to build a static arm and not flex those cables, or you're going to have to heat them up and bend them to fit the arm that you've built. Not sure what the best approach is, but I'm guessing the less bending you can do the better. Once I get these arms built tomorrow I'll take some shots so that people can see them constructed and know what to do in the future. Here's where I'm at in the building process. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/9027B276-8CA3-4621-83A1-0E39277AF93F_zpsui5pjli4.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4212650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/9027B276-8CA3-4621-83A1-0E39277AF93F_zpsui5pjli4.jpg Looks sick as hell. Is the missile rack on the top the Hunter Killers? I assume the Frag Grenades and Phosphex Launcher are the vertical line of ports above the waist Volkite/Flamers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4212862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Nope, the rack on top is the phosphex launcher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4212875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It counts as both. 30k Version does not have access to the HK missiles IIRC, only the Phosphex and 40k Doesnt have Phosphex at all (shame) so its HK at that point; at least, I assume. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4212876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Ok - so I said I would do some more detailed pictures of the arms, and I figured I would give some instructions. So when you get you Leviathan arm, the pieces are assembled in the following order: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/4B0707A9-4C2E-4098-A3C1-71C195F3C5B6_zpsgojjdlqz.jpg Note: you only need one set of cables, and one of the vent plates for the shoulder. Once you have them in the right order, it's a case of bringing them together. Some components have more rotation options than others, so I find it best to assemble those components with least mobility and then decide how you want the others to look. For me that means assembling the claw / drill and attaching to the wrist, and connecting the upper arms to the shoulder. That leaves the elbow for positioning: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/D2BB4AF9-64E2-4B9A-9186-6590AC5AEA5E_zpsslj5gyzo.jpg make sure you get the elbow and lower arm orientated correctly. They fit together in two seperate ways, the right way is to have cable attachment point on the wrist on the same side of the armoured plates protecting the elbow. The other side (the inside of the elbow) should look like this: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/7BFAEC93-C214-4199-8275-83A6E6A7BFAF_zpsj7yfqkuh.jpg And the outside should look like this: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/42549B71-93D8-4C66-BE73-BFA94C782682_zpsbvg0afzq.jpg Combining everything together, and bending the cable to fit the connectors should look like this: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/75479D86-4E6B-436F-847D-A68C9686E174_zps2kuf8wcm.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/92026FC7-1631-421C-BA78-E9AA5810A9B1_zps3gqlry0x.jpg And when attached to the Leviathan looks like this: http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/2A2C6C9F-01E7-40C6-8946-24D0F63B1F96_zps6kmybtys.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/13F71CDE-DAE6-4F78-8044-160C5DE735AF_zpsofxh7tdo.jpg http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/m_r_parker/Word%20Bearers/CE54ACBB-AF6F-4551-8768-21072290872F_zpspn8d6p8u.jpg Hopes this helps everyone trying to assemble these. The instructions for the body are surprisingly good, it's a shame there aren't any for the arms. Now all I need to do is Word Bearer him up a little, and he'll be ready to paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4213097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Has anyone actually come up with a way to magnetize the arms, because the shoulder joint is not part of the arm section and also the cable issue. If you had extra shoulders I think it would be easy then. Someone needs to start making aftermarket shoulders so this will be easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4224318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrick Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 i don't suppose anyone has bought a fire raptor recently and it came with updated instructions like this? I have been putting that kit off for a while and its instructions are... wanting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315031-leviathan-dread-knight-atrapos-kits/#findComment-4224632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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