Truesight Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 A thread for sharing tactics and set ups that differ from the norm, but you really like. For myself I've developed a real love for Vanquisher Pask with Plasma cannons. The unit is as such: Pask Vanquisher, lascannon, plasma cannons Bodyguard Exterminator, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons I've found Pask smacks around heavy armour, while the exterminator split fires and destroys lighter armour and transports. The Plasma cannons are great as they get mileage out of the preferred enemy, and mean the vanquisher and exterminator are a threat to anything, even when the armour is neutralised. An added benefit is that all the weapons have great range, so when combined with infantry support in my games they very rarely die which is nice as a warlord, and have exacted a heavy toll on the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomericus Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I love rough riders,both for the feel and theme of my army and for what they do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Can there ever be such a thing as the norm for Guard? There are many ways to skin a xeno and our codex offers a lot of them ;) I like to mix things up a little sometimes, but I'm not really sure what could count as unusual. Perhaps I mess around with builds a bit too much? :P I quite like my Ratlings, though usually as a top up to a list and while the Hellhound/variant tanks might not always get the love they deserve they are a relatively frequent addition to my armies. Also mortars. They've not quite been replaced by Wyverns for me, they like to sit on an objective and make a nuisance out of themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Perhaps not so unorthodox sounding but triple weapon veteran squads. Too often, in my opinion, I see that advice that mech vets should only have two of them because of the fire points, which, to be fair, is a reasonable argument. However, whenever I have tried it I find that I lack the necessary firepower at that right moment. Too often it was the last penetrating hit roll or the final saving throw that finishes off the enemy. Without the last gun, my guys are just stranded in no man's land with an angry wold lord or two staring them down (which is bad.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukash_ Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 A basic Tank Commander in an Exterminator is quite a nice HQ. He's cheap and effective, and with different loadouts (lascannon, bolters, multimeltas, etc) can pose a threat to just about any force. Not a generally useful tactic, but putting an Inquisitor with a Psyocculum in a CCS that contains a Master of Ordnance can be funny against psyker-heavy armies. Bonus points for giving the CCS 3-4 plasma guns. Try and alpha strike me now, Grey Knights. I like the old 3 Armored Sentinel "Arrowhead Pattern," where you position a 3-vehicle Armored Sentinel squad in such a way that any units firing from the front or sides are shooting at AV12. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I have tried the Exterminator tank commander paired with another Exterminator in a Steel Host and it has never failed me. No many units these days are built around surviving the really good attacks but are fragile to multiple mid-level weapons. Two Exterminators is throwing a lot of dice at your problems. My brother-in-law's thunderwolves do not like them one bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Special Weapons Squads with 3x Demolition Charges. Never fail to make a dramatic entrance, one way or another. Also a fan of Hellhound variants, Manticores and Lord Commissars, despite the internet wisdom going against those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Now that I actually have the models to play with what ever I want I have been running ridiculous lists. They usually work out really well but that's mainly because my opponents never know what I am going to bring (they shouldn't be list tailoring anyway). Some examples are: all tanks, all infantry, heavy abhuman lists, full storm trooper lists, artillery only (mortar vets included) Its always fun and creates very interesting games. Unit wise I don't mind using pretty much everything mortars are currently a favourite heavy weapon, just because they are fun though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUESH33P Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Can there ever be such a thing as the norm for Guard? There are many ways to skin a xeno and our codex offers a lot of them I like to mix things up a little sometimes, but I'm not really sure what could count as unusual. Perhaps I mess around with builds a bit too much? I quite like my Ratlings, though usually as a top up to a list and while the Hellhound/variant tanks might not always get the love they deserve they are a relatively frequent addition to my armies. Also mortars. They've not quite been replaced by Wyverns for me, they like to sit on an objective and make a nuisance out of themselves. I would hazard to say that the norm for IG/AM is as many infantry/veteran squads in chimeras as possible (Which is a little boring in my opinion, both hobby and gameplay wise). My favorite spice to add to an IG army would probably be my personal requirement of at least one knight in each list, with my current one being a Knight Crusader and a Knight Acheron complemented by some carapace vets, artillery and a vendetta. Unfortunately this army isn't done yet, so I'm yet to see if this list is either ( a ) uncommon for a good reason or ( b ) worthy of a nobel peace prize. Either way - should look interesting on the shelf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4200765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 not using wyverns? Now that I actually have the models to play with what ever I want I have been running ridiculous lists. They usually work out really well but that's mainly because my opponents never know what I am going to bring (they shouldn't be list tailoring anyway).Some examples are: all tanks, all infantry, heavy abhuman lists, full storm trooper lists, artillery only (mortar vets included)Its always fun and creates very interesting games. Unit wise I don't mind using pretty much everything mortars are currently a favourite heavy weapon, just because they are fun though. Oh, yeah...and this. Which reminds me, it's time for my cartoonish metal ogryns to hit the tabletop...along with both hellhounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4201364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 not using wyverns? Now that I actually have the models to play with what ever I want I have been running ridiculous lists. They usually work out really well but that's mainly because my opponents never know what I am going to bring (they shouldn't be list tailoring anyway). Some examples are: all tanks, all infantry, heavy abhuman lists, full storm trooper lists, artillery only (mortar vets included) Its always fun and creates very interesting games. Unit wise I don't mind using pretty much everything mortars are currently a favourite heavy weapon, just because they are fun though. Oh, yeah...and this. Which reminds me, it's time for my cartoonish metal ogryns to hit the tabletop...along with both hellhounds. Haha that sounds awesome. Bring the fire and brawlers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4201573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I can't wait to be able to field 60+ Orgyns/Bullgryns. Come next ETL when they get painted I will field them. It will not be that effective but I'm hoping super fun to play Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4201741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdAstraPerAspera Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I love mortars and the Hellhound/variants. Yeah, I have some Wyverns too, but usually only bust them out in larger points games. I may pick up some spare SM bikes from a buddy of mine and proxy build some rough riders- maybe greenstuff some chaps on the SM legs to account for them being larger than Guard legs. Plus, chaps (not sure what they're called in English English, so sorry for the confusion to any Europeans out there) are just funny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4202848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Not sure about this idea but I've got a list built for a tourney in a few months based on three punishers with bolter sponsons. Might be fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4202856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 @ Buster That could definitely work. Will Pask be one of them? If you have him they can all get preferred enemy and then just take anti tank weapons on your infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4203452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Its using the ABG from IA so no Pask. I'm intending to use them as a line breaker squadron since the main gun has a shorter range and backed up with some vets and a Vanquisher command tank. So not to sure how well it would work out overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315035-unorthodox-things-that-work-for-you/#findComment-4203752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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