JagoSevatarion Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Guys, I need help. Seriously I don't know what to do. Let me get this out of the way first. I am not bragging or looking to take part in some childish willywaving competition. Let me explain. Last night, out of boredom, I sat down and tried to calculate the size of my Night Lords/ VIII Legion army. Using only the models that I had, physically in my garage at that time. I included those models that were either assembled and unassembled. I did not separate the painted from the unpainted. The total came to a ridiculous 12,559. Most of these points are WYSIWYG and doesn't include any fortifications as those get used for my other armies. It amazed me how I have managed to accumulate so much stuff in three years I have been addicted to buying Forge World stuff. Most of these items are brand new, straight out of Nottingham. However, there are second hand pieces from eBay which I do wonder if originally they are from China Forge or Russian Forge and the seller has been a little dishonest with his descriptions. This insane amount of resin includes: 3 Land Raiders (1 needing assembly, 1 painted and 1 base coated) 40 Tactical Marines (All painted) 10 Assault Marines (Assembled) 1 Spartan (Base coated) 5 Drop Pods (2 painted, 2 assembled and 1 waiting to be assembled) 2 Sicarans (1 painted , 1 in bits) 2 Storm Eagles (1 painted, 1 base coated) 2 Dreadclaws (Both painted) Assault Ram (Painted) 6 Contemptors (1 Painted, 2 assembled, 4 in bits) Vindicator (Assembled) Scorpion (Assembled) Castigator (In bits) 20 Cataphractii (5 Painted 15 Assembled) 2 Fire raptors (Both base coated) Dreadnought (Probably had two others hidden away somewhere) 7 Jet bikes (Praetor, Consul and Command Squad) 6 Destroyers (Assembled) 10 Night Raptors (Assembled) Praetor and Command squad on foot (All built) 3 Various Consuls (2 built 1 in bits) 19 Various Tactical support marines (All built) 3 medics (2 painted and 1 built) 10 man veteran squad 1 techmarine 31 Terror marines Deredo Kharybdis 9 Thallax This list does not include the two rapiers, Sevatar and 10 terminators I have winging their way to me. I purchased a lot of this stuff, just before the Night Lords book came out. At the time I promised myself that I would buy just one army and play that until I got bored. Then the Night Lords book came out and with it a whole host of new shiny toys and new ways to play. A few things were added to the Army nothing big a few terror marines, an extra contemptor and a dread claw. Then two more books with even more new toys and even more exciting ways to alter my Army. Suddenly the Flying Circus of Captain Reek Toven proved to be too unwieldy, too expensive and failed almost always to get back the points I'd invested. Suddenly he found himself on foot, dropping to earth with a terror squad. Or if the mood took him bouncing across the board with nearly 20 close combat wielding tactical marines and a Chappie in either a Spartan or Storm Eagle. Once that third Land Raider is built he will be hightailing across the board with three squads of terror assault marines. Much of the army performs so bad that they seem to be cursed. The night raptors rarely make it through a whole game. In one match they were butchered to a man in a single round of combat with a Palantine Blade squad. Thanks mainly to some good rolls from my opponent and bad rolls from me. But hey, you can't have a Night Lords Army without these bat wing thugs. My Libby fails to make his points in about 99.5% of games. But I won't get rid of him because of that one time his combi-melta fired the fatal shot that took Erebus down. I will always remember the look of horror on my opponents face when my assault Ram fired on is elite squad of terminators who had emergency disembarked from a wrecked land raider. 6 Marines inc a Chappie facing instant death..only 2 survived. The rest of the time this flying brick achieves very little. But it does look good. There are a hundred other stories I could share where one of these units above has done something amazing, lucky or just survived the odds. Every time I consider sticking that bit of resin on eBay, I remember the effect the model had on the game and slowly unwrap it from the protective bubble wrap and place it back in its tray. So back to the original point of this essay. How do I say no to the Siren Call of Forge World. Do I close my eyes and say I don't need a Lancer to lead my allied Knights contingent. Or that Super Heavy tank that has a twin linked D Weapon? How can I look that new crazy Siege Dreadnought in the face and say I don't want something that looks like it eats Spartans for breakfast? What do I say to Papa Curze? How do I explain that my army doesn't need a Primarch, even though Angron has butchered his way through half my army more than once. Who knows what other goodies will come crawling from the dark depths of Andy Bligh's twisted imagination? How can I find the strength to keep my wallet closed? Will I be destined to eat Tesco Value Beans every night while I huddle next to a candle flame trying to squeeze the last dregs from a tube of paint I can no longer afford. While my wife weeps in the next room and considers how we can make more money to feed my habit. I've suggested she enters politics but she thinks it will be more honourable to become a lady of "negotiable affection". I need to know how you say no to demon-resin and stop yourself from buying that one small extra little thing that will give your Army what it needs. My name is Jago and I am a Resin Addict. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hi Jago, dont worry were all on his resin-fueled Crack addiction together! I myself have roughly 10k Imperial Fists with no actual LoW selections :p But damn, that is still one impressive collection! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well, if you'd like to go down the route of 'out-of-sight, out-of-mind', you could always send me some stuff. ^_^ Only joking. I find the 'easiest' way to say no to compulsive buying is... being skint. Unemployment works wonders on your spending habits. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Feel free to call me a jerk for this, but have you considered charitable donations?! ;) As many others no doubt, I too shudder to think how much I have spent on the hobby in recent years. Then again, there's much worse things we could have spent money on... Right?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Alanticus Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Feel free to call me a jerk for this, but have you considered charitable donations?! ;) As many others no doubt, I too shudder to think how much I have spent on the hobby in recent years. Then again, there's much worse things we could have spent money on... Right?! If you're proposing donating models to needy hobbyists sign me in. I can't afford any of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If you're proposing donating models to needy hobbyists sign me in. I can't afford any of it. :D That's not a bad idea. How about it Jago? People can write to you and say how they'd use your spare units and how they'd paint them, and you can decide who "wins" your spare models?! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You could retask the unpainted stuff into a new Legion project! Though this may mean buying more stuff of the Legion-specific variety... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo13 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Knight Errants perhaps.... Or Black Shields..... That way no extra legiony goodies needed..... (Drops mic and runs away) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Money is worth nothing unless you spend it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You can make up some of that cost by putting some minis up on eBay and thus finance Curze that way. As for suboptimal models and purchasing decisions, I usually proxy them for a few games to see whether they are worth it. If I buy them and change my mind, eBay. Call it natural selection. But then, I am an poor ass student, so the constraint comes naturally. But for what its worth, that is what I do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Have you considered selling some of it? I must admit only lightly read your initial post, but I got the impression that you didn't have a super clear idea of everything you had, ergo, you may not be as attached to everything once the dust has settled. I have about 10k points myself (not all resin though, a ton of infantry is gw plastics in fact), but I have a pretty clear idea of everything I have (now that is). But like you, (I assume?) I often lose my head, and buy one of Forgeworld's flashy new releases because I feel I must have them. I have since culled my collection a few times and actually sold of parts of it (usually the money i've earned i've spent on new things, that I wanted more) I feel my collection is more balanced for it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Every so often, I find myself in the same situtation: lots of unpainted (or even, horror of horrors, unassembled) miniatures for ideas that proved impractical, or side projects that never reached the painting desk. In these circumstances, I sell off completed armies which haven't seen use in a long time or have been superseded (i.e. I've done a version with which I'm happier, or have a very similar force anyway). In your case, I'd recommend that you put all the painted stuff to one side. That's staying. Put all the unpainted and unassembled stuff in another group. Half of this is going. Pick something and paint it. While you're working on that, sell one thing. Once you have a painted and a sold unit, put the painted unit with the rest of the army, and repeat the process with the remaining stuff. In this way, you'll gradually whittle down the pile while building up a 'war-chest'. At the beginning, it'll be easy to choose what you're enthusiastic about, and what you're happy to sell on. Eventually, you'll run out of stuff – by which time you'll have a nice little pile of cash to spend on whatever's come out since (or y'know, spend on household stuff!). By creating a virtuous circle of painting the stuff you like best while streamlining the stuff it turns out you've lost enthusiasm for, you'll end up with a cash-neutral hobby for a while. Great to do! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Your list makes me moist. More. More I say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 i spent half of my money on pretty women ,fast cars and resin the rest I wasted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4204760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Beyond selling some stuff, you can't really fix the fiscal 'damage' already done. Money, like words and rounds, can't be taken back once sent down range. But you can prevent future issues. Every one loves Marine Corps uniforms, right? But those sexy suits are hella expensive to maintain. God forbid you get promoted or earn some type of award. So you set aside a monthly allotment, and purchase things as the need arises or in preparation for an event you know is coming. Over time you squire a nice little Marine Corps bitz box. Same thing with all that beautiful resin. Set aside a monthly allotment, say $30-40, or whatever your monetary equivalent is depending on your location. It's just enough that it will take you two months to afford a five-man squad and maybe some extras, and will take you even longer to get that one vehicle/dreadnought/resin monster you have your eye on. This will force you to wait and plan your purchases, and will give you some time for your initial excitement for whatever the new sexiness is to fade a little bit. The thing is, you have to hold yourself accountable. No exceeding the allotment. Ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 LongGone is a man with a plan, that's some damn good advice. If you are low on self control when a new unit/character/whatever comes out this idea may just save your bacon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The other bit of advice I hear a lot is "the 1 month rule". If you still really like the model(s) 1 month after they were released (or you initially thought of purchasing them), only then should you think of buying. Applying LoneGone's rule to this means you'll only get the models you REALLY want and will be able to afford. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I like it, I myself have a 25$ a month side account. This follows the same principle, however from past stuff I have a ton of models from trades in the past as well. So I have currently a stockpile of stuff. Once in a while I go they it and find treasures. But yes, budget. We all know we have models which are almost never fielded and we regret it when we do. Mostly this has to do with lack of efficiency/not fitting the play style you have developed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Block FW on your PC. It might save you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Every so often, I find myself in the same situtation: lots of unpainted (or even, horror of horrors, unassembled) miniatures for ideas that proved impractical, or side projects that never reached the painting desk. In these circumstances, I sell off completed armies which haven't seen use in a long time or have been superseded (i.e. I've done a version with which I'm happier, or have a very similar force anyway). In your case, I'd recommend that you put all the painted stuff to one side. That's staying. Put all the unpainted and unassembled stuff in another group. Half of this is going. Pick something and paint it. While you're working on that, sell one thing. Once you have a painted and a sold unit, put the painted unit with the rest of the army, and repeat the process with the remaining stuff. In this way, you'll gradually whittle down the pile while building up a 'war-chest'. At the beginning, it'll be easy to choose what you're enthusiastic about, and what you're happy to sell on. Eventually, you'll run out of stuff – by which time you'll have a nice little pile of cash to spend on whatever's come out since (or y'know, spend on household stuff!). By creating a virtuous circle of painting the stuff you like best while streamlining the stuff it turns out you've lost enthusiasm for, you'll end up with a cash-neutral hobby for a while. Great to do! This is a eye opener, I thank you my good sir. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4205910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagoSevatarion Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Fellow addicts some great advice here and I've taken a lot to heart. As my aspiration is to arrange a 30K apocalypse game I will be keeping my model for that eventuality 1. Stop looking at the Forge World, Ebay, BOLS websites 2. Stop going to Open Days 3. Apologise to my other half for - in her words - blowing my cash on silly little toys 4. Make amends to my other half take her out once in a while 5. Build only what I have 6. Prioritise my painting 7. Become a better a painter 8. Become a better player 9. Develop will power 10. To accept that there are better players than me 11. To accept that this will not change every night 12. To remember the prayer to our Lord Emperor Emperor, grant me the serenity to accept there are models I cannot buy, The courage to buy only those models I need, And the wisdom to know the difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4209646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Fellow addicts some great advice here and I've taken a lot to heart. As my aspiration is to arrange a 30K apocalypse game I will be keeping my model for that eventuality 1. Stop looking at the Forge World, Ebay, BOLS websites 2. Stop going to Open Days 3. Apologise to my other half for - in her words - blowing my cash on silly little toys 4. Make amends to my other half take her out once in a while 5. Build only what I have 6. Prioritise my painting 7. Become a better a painter 8. Become a better player 9. Develop will power 10. To accept that there are better players than me 11. To accept that this will not change every night 12. To remember the prayer to our Lord Emperor Emperor, grant me the serenity to accept there are models I cannot buy, The courage to buy only those models I need, And the wisdom to know the difference. And if all that fails I call dibs on the Terminators, Storm Eagles and Spartan! That being said I wish you luck controlling your itchy trigger finger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315204-hi-my-name-is-jago-and-im-a-resin-addict/#findComment-4209660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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