m_r_parker Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Looks like we get the Mor Deythyan squad and transfers this week: Mor Deythan Squad - £50 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99550101476_RavenGuardMorDeythanStrikeSquad01.jpg http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99550101476_RavenGuardMorDeythanStrikeSquad05.jpg Having fought at their Primarch’s side from the days before the coming of the Emperor, the Mor Deythan are among the most loyal and experienced of veterans. Through the endless procession of death they have overseen, the Mor Daythan have perfected hard won skills that surpass those of most Space Marines. Masters of stealth, attacking from the shadows with almost preternatural skill, the Mor Deythan Strike Squads are the pre-eminent infiltration and execution units of the Raven Guard. Few who enter their sights survive. This Mor Deytahn Strike Squad is made up of five models, armoured in modified MkVI ‘Corvus’ battleplate that bears the symbol of their Legion. Each wears a cloak and is equipped with a sniper rifle, holstered bolt pistol and a selection of grenades. The kit also includes an optional un-helmeted head. This is a complete, multi part resin kit. It includes five 32mm round bases. Raven Guard Transfers - £16 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99510101117_RavenGuardTransferSheet01.jpg Personally, I think the price point on the models is a little high for a squad a 5 - but they sure are pretty! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Still the best rock I've ever seen on a Forge World kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 That is pretty expensive. Heck they're the second most expensive (complete) infantry kit they got after ultramarine suzerains. (IF templar brethren and phalanx warders are also more expensive technically, since they require a basic kit as well to assemble, pushing them above 50) This means they're more expensive than all the various special terminators (phoenix guard, deathshroud, red butchers gorgons, fire drakes etc etc), which are all 46.50. Most special power armor units are in the 33-37 range. (Gal vorbak are the only ones not, which like the terminators are 46.50, and also the three mentioned above.... this actually brings clarity to why I'm so hesitant about getting either Templar brethren or phalanx warders. They cost more than bloody terminators...) Yeah. Expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 And they don't come with the guns I've seem most lists that contain them have. So most folk are still gonna have to drop another 30 quid for combi weapons. Still looking. That rock though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The rock is the premium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not a fan of their bolter sniper weapons. But yes, that is a nice rock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think they look pretty nice painted. I was a bit unsure of the eye-lens stuck to the side of the helms, but with a bit of colour they look pretty neat (Is the thing about the rock an inside joke ? ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I should have posted after the open day to be honest about the price - I got so excited that I had a pack in hand (which they didnt advertise we could!) that i just paid - it was only when i looked through the receipt later that I saw the £50 tag! I'm actually half way through building the kit (it's on my desk next to me as I type this) and they are amazing - but I did balk at the price when I saw them! I'm still 50/50 on whether to pick up the combi-weapons for them as personally I love the sniper boltguns but not sure they do enough in game - but as has been said another £30 for 10 combi-weapons of the same type starts to get extremely pricey! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Are the shoulders separate or moulded onto the Torso? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Are the shoulders separate or moulded onto the Torso? I'm fairly sure they're seperate - Mark Bedford made a Praetor from the limited Praetor model and used those Shoulder Pads for him, so guessing they must be seperate components Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFeeder Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Are the shoulders separate or moulded onto the Torso? They are attached to the arms unfortunately. There are only five components per miniature (head, backpack, weapon, left arm with shoulderpad and then the body, legs and right arm are all one piece). I was hoping they would be more conversion friendly myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 wow, that sucks. Those pads have great potential to be re-used elsewhere (with easy ability to greenstuff over the details if need be), but not if you have to trims arms out and attempt to make them fit other arms. Oh well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arac Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 That makes me sad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 10 out 10. Would buy for rock again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Will the rock be available as a separate upgrade pack? I want to name my rock "Dwayne". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not a fan.. Was looking forward to using pieces for a recon/seeker squad. £50? not a chance in hell. The Iron hands MKIII squad come in more detail and a hell of a lot more conversionable for £33. Far too much bling for the most invisible group of RG around for me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not sure I think a couple of chapter symbols and capes constitutes as far too much bling Which brings us again to the question how they motivate these guys to be pricier than terminators. Oh right. We do get that rock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not sure I think a couple of chapter symbols and capes constitutes as far too much bling Which brings us again to the question how they motivate these guys to be pricier than terminators. Oh right. We do get that rock. Big Raven Guard logo's all over the Armour is really too much bling "lets cover them in chapter symbols so we know that they are the best of the best of the Legion". What would make these models a lot better is detailed pattern work within the plates similar to how the RG dreadnaught has the pattern around its body arm and leg iirc. At least a decent pattern and detailing would justify the £50 price tag. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Maybe it's the fact that it's the most used RG unit. Nah.. Probably the rock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 way to expensive for what you get. forge world prices are high but typically the convert ability of all the bits and repose ability of the resin along with the detail help justify the cost but there is less detail on these (though I think they look just right) the kneeling poses are more difficult to do anything but kneel with and the sniper bolters are cool but I mean all they have is a long barrel and I small optic scope ( I've seen better looking home made sniper bolters) and the fact that there are no options is frustrating FW is getting bad for that in my opinion I bought 10 cataphractii one power axe set and 1 special weapons and can only fully equip 9 and a half terminators like golly gee Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4204904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not a fan.. Was looking forward to using pieces for a recon/seeker squad. £50? not a chance in hell. The Iron hands MKIII squad come in more detail and a hell of a lot more conversionable for £33. Far too much bling for the most invisible group of RG around for me! This, so much this. costs too much for 5 dudes, and way too fancy for sneaky ninjas. Im pretty damn happy I bought some recon marines instead of holding out. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4205256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I completely love the models... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4205316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Used up all my likes today for this show of solidarity for the rock. And seriously, somebody should make a Centurion out of these models and name him Dwayne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4205472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Man, that rock. I would fill my garden with them. As for the extras that come with the rock, I think they wear a bit too much iconography for a stealthy assassination unit. They are made them look pretty, not functional which is something RG are all about. Prettiness is for EC. Still, I give this kit a rock/10. Would rock it again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4205511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Are the shoulders separate or moulded onto the Torso? They are attached to the arms unfortunately. There are only five components per miniature (head, backpack, weapon, left arm with shoulderpad and then the body, legs and right arm are all one piece). I was hoping they would be more conversion friendly myself. Wow that's a damn shame. I was hoping to split the shoulderpads with seekers and the RG upgrade bits to create two more varied units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315221-forgeworld-new-releases-23102015-raven-guard/#findComment-4205815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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