Rommel44 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Hey mates. Got the first few models made and build and looking to start priming them here in a bit. Just to get an idea so that they look pretty good, how do you go about doing that? At the moment, this is what I was planning doing: * Prime the fully built model Black (including Shoulder Pads). * Wash the Black with a black wash obviously. * Do a layer of Codex Gray for the Shoulder Pads, Followed by a coat or two of White. * Touch up from there. Anyone else have done somethign like this when painting your Black Templars? The model themselves are no a problem, the only niche I am trying to figure out is the process of painting the Shoulder Pads. Anty advice you expereicned players can give me would be greatly apprciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightwing1511 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I would, if doing Templars again, lean towards priming grey, and then washing black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4206761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You can always just prime the shoulders white, separate from the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4206799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I prime my Models corax white , Hit the Black Parts with Eshin Grey , Then Shade the Model heavily with Black Wash , It brings Eshin Grey Down to a Sable color If I mess up on the shoulder pads themselves I touch them up with ceramite white Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4206829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekman Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I go air black 2 layers straight onto the model unless it's metal or resin. Then basic colors for body/armor/weapon parts, washes in appropriate colors, additional highlighting, washing and filling to taste then end finish my black highlights with cobalt gray and pale gray blue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4206957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I prime the body black and the shoulder pads white separately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I prime the body black and the shoulder pads white separately. This is a good idea, but many of us are lazy when it comes to that. We'd rather have the whole model assembled. Personally, I primed grey, painted mechanicus standard grey, and black washed till I was satisfied. That being said, the old codex (4th edition) contains a painting guide for using black and then simply highlighting the models. I'm going to give this a try on my new models to see if I prefer it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I had always painted them black first, but I haven't painted a mini in 11 years so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I always prime all black including pads. You should check out my tutorial on painting white pads here I'm curious, why would you prime black and then wash black? You won't see the wash at all if the model is already black. Also I wouldn't prime gray and then wash black unless you are going for a more worn and damaged look. Washes do not tend to spread evenly enough for something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm curious, why would you prime black and then wash black? You won't see the wash at all if the model is already black. Also I wouldn't prime gray and then wash black unless you are going for a more worn and damaged look. Washes do not tend to spread evenly enough for something like that. Very true. And it will be a real problem if and when you try and match the black of vehicles to your infantry. Doing a heavy wash across the whole topside of a Landraider without getting any ugly pooling or streaking isn't a challenge you should invite upon yourself lightly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm curious, why would you prime black and then wash black? The number one reason to wash black is because unless you're using an airbrush, there will always be paint shadows that the primer didn't get to. Number two reason could be that the primer isn't dark enough, so a black wash will evenly darken everything. @OP: Obviously, feel free to pick any technique you want, we do them all. ZEALously, I might add. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yeah but if the primer didn't get in an area then that part isn't painted ;) So it'd require painting anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven6826 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I prime with a dark grey then apply a black wash. All colour requires more coats over flat black, with dark grey you get brighter colours, black layers very well over it. As black is going to cover most of the mini I like my colours to pop! Grey works better in getting that with out the three coats you need over black. I have painted more than enough chaplains to know this.... Even if I'm a space smurf fanatic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4207782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Honestly, if I had all the skills and patience and time and money, I'd be tempted to start afresh with a similar technique - dark greys and heavy washes - the style just really appeals to me. However, I am still happy with my approach of classic black with edge highlights in grey (codex/administratum/dawn/whatever it is these days). My painting is rough'n'ready and all about getting models onto the table - I love the modelling and gaming sides so much that painting is more like a necessary evil wedged in the middle! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4208077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven6826 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Honestly, if I had all the skills and patience and time and money, I'd be tempted to start afresh with a similar technique - dark greys and heavy washes - the style just really appeals to me. However, I am still happy with my approach of classic black with edge highlights in grey (codex/administratum/dawn/whatever it is these days). My painting is rough'n'ready and all about getting models onto the table - I love the modelling and gaming sides so much that painting is more like a necessary evil wedged in the middle! Lol! Know where you are coming from! Just started basing 60 ultra lads for big game this Friday... Ouch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4208081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yeah, I've got about 40 templars almost modeled up, can't wait to meditate (paint) them... But really, can't wait to Burn!Purge!Kill! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4208109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_von_Speer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I basecoat the models with chaos black and then they get drybrushed with eshin grey. After detailing everything I wash the armor parts with nuln oil. Kinda lazy approach I know, but it looks pretty decent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4209174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortesMastery Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Personally I prime everything on sprue before anything else. Of course I dont do any work with Mold Lines besides paint over them sooooo... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4209769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Well if you paint that shoulderpads the question is, what sort of white you want to have, warm or cold. Cold white would be with black over grey to white. Or you could go on a rather warm white starting with dark brown over something like bleached bone and ivory to white as a highlight. But on the other side i do a different approach: 1. Prime black 2. do the white parts like shoulderpads with an airbrush. 3. mask the white parts with tape, liquid mask, etc. 4. do the armour with some highlights etc. 5. coat of satin varnish 6. wash with black oil color 7. remove mask 8. paint details 9. coat of matt varnish or if you dont want to work with oils go for some other way for black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4211597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Having 10 terminators primed in black has proven useful. They match my army, even though I have not yet painted them. So, a list for templars can include primed models and not look out of place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315305-painting-advice-prime-the-whole-model-black/#findComment-4219257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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