BloodTzar Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hello brothers, well I have stepped back from this game for a while, since I did not have a time, nor I have found interest in bringing all the toys just to realize I can pack them back into boxes due to some new GW rule sets. However I have an intention to get back and play some games with my plastic soldiers and throw some dices :) The question I have what would be the most competitive all-rounded list that BA can dish out while following is taken into account; A) FW units allowed ( I have lot of toys from them) Formations limited to 1 C) All the fancy names (named chars) D) 1850 format E) Allies too Thank you brothers for you help/comments/opinions ~BT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hello brothers, nor I have found interest in bringing all the toys just to realize I can pack them back into boxes due to some new GW rule sets. If this is the case, then can I ask why you are interested in "competition driven" 40k? Blood Angels have a weaker codex than other marine codexes due to being a 7th ed design test bed. Play Maelstrom missions and I feel we can do well due to lots of fast potentially scoring units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Hello brothers, nor I have found interest in bringing all the toys just to realize I can pack them back into boxes due to some new GW rule sets. If this is the case, then can I ask why you are interested in "competition driven" 40k? Blood Angels have a weaker codex than other marine codexes due to being a 7th ed design test bed. Play Maelstrom missions and I feel we can do well due to lots of fast potentially scoring units. Well BA are my chapter that I have chosen years back, I am not willing to move a long the power creep for C: Red Marines, yet I do wonder how competitive BA can get. Since in my gaming group people tend to get very strong lists, not the VAAC type of lists, however very well rounded and competitive. Therefore if I want to have any fun, I must come up with something solid :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 No love broters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It's a pretty broad question... Maybe we should start with which models you have available, and/or which units you like. There are many good 1850 lists you could make from the codex using different units... Dante + Sanguinary Guard + Priest or Libby is popular Also Libby Dreads Death Company w/ jump packs + Chaplain / Astorath Fragioso dreads in pods Melta assault squads in pods Flamer tactical squads in pods Stormravens are still good Fast Vindicators As for Forge World I would say Sicaran battle tanks and Deredeo Dreadnoughts. I haven't seen an actual BA Formation that excites me that much, I'm more interested in allying the superior Skyhammer and Shadowstrike Kill Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thank you very much for the directions Luther ! Think my general direction would be either; going heavy on FW units, or going BA and skyhammer or the new RG formation that allows assault after DS How good is Skyhammer formations? What list you run it with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I've never run it myself but I would love to try it – it's obviously very awesome! Skyhammer + Shadowstrike (the RG formation you mentioned) together would be very powerful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Skyhammer + Shadowstrike (the RG formation you mentioned) together would be very powerful! However, not really Blood Angels ;) That said, you could argue that CAD blood angels aren't really blood angels, as they lack red thirst. Multiple 5 man units of death co, Sanguinary guard, dante. Priest with Veritas Vitae, unless you are using Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 I do wonder if the bonuses do stack from SH and SS formations, meaning; no overwatch for charging Van Vets assuming Devs did hit the unit that VVs are going to charge? On the other hand, getting both formations, could mean almost no BA presence, moreover I do feel in serious tournaments you are limited to 1 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Skyhammer + Shadowstrike (the RG formation you mentioned) together would be very powerful! However, not really Blood Angels ;) That said, you could argue that CAD blood angels aren't really blood angels, as they lack red thirst. Multiple 5 man units of death co, Sanguinary guard, dante. Priest with Veritas Vitae, unless you are using Dante Sorry meant to say - those formations in support of a Baal Strike Force (and painted red of course ;) ) As I've said before, 7th Ed is about mix & match. The OP said he wants something competitive and there may be a need to embrace allies / formations in order to achieve that. Plus he mentioned them specifically. Not sure what the two formations weigh in at points-wise, the BSF may need to just be 2x Scouts, Elite of choice and HQ to match (priest if SG, chaplain if DC etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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