RandomMarine Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 My clan morragul all have red instead of white as I hate painting white. Don't forget the censured in death fire ultra with red helms so they could tell each other apart from the alpha infiltrators Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Very few of the "evolutions" of legion colors existed at the same time though, at least that's my impression. Like, you probably wouldn't see the XIIth rocking both Warhound and World Eater livery at the same time. For the Legions with specialized formations that's certainly different, or units of reknown type of deal, there is a lot of room to do all kinds of stuff you come up with that hasn't been spelled out. Oh, also there's the Predation fleet guys from the Raven Guard as well as far as the list goes. There were a very small number of Warhounds in Betrayal, notably the first ever Legion master in his Contemptor and the Librarians. Just re-read that last week. It mentions Lhorke still having the insignia, but never says he still wears the colors of the War Hounds. And the Librarians wear World Eaters colors, but when they fight Lorgar as the "Communion", their aggregate form in the warp appears as a War Hound. The only members of the XII Legion stated to wear different colors are the Destroyer sergeant and his squad, and their armor has been burned black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Definitely seems like there's tons of cases across the legions. Extermination shows IF veterans of the War of the Howling Gyre wearing predominantly black armour. Palatine Blades in the EC were characterised by plantinum blazoning, though not universally, probably as this was an informal cross-company/millenial formation. The Alpha Legion Effrit Stealth Squad mentioned in Legion wore black but then Extermination mentions that the designation 'Effrit' appears to have been applied at different times to destroyers, headhunters, veterans and saboteurs, so it's not entirely clear if this was a more widespread thing. It's the Alphas anyway, who knows. All these cases seem to be spread throughout their respective legions, rather than something like the IF 1st company wearing black or IH Clan Morragul honour guard wearing some red. That is good news indeed. Those are all nice options for the box. AL is my favorite of those three Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Isn't there fluff of loyalists on istvaan using the dusk raiders scheme again? Not on Isstvan (doubt there was much paint lying around), but there's mention of Astartes in Dusk Raiders regalia defeating Iron Warriors on some random battlefield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 What about Destroyers, do they count? The Ultramarines Destroyers wore black armour, and I think that's the case in some other legions but I'm not sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Isn't the colouring more a side effect of the weapons they use than a deliberate different paint scheme? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Definitely seems like there's tons of cases across the legions. Extermination shows IF veterans of the War of the Howling Gyre wearing predominantly black armour. Palatine Blades in the EC were characterised by plantinum blazoning, though not universally, probably as this was an informal cross-company/millenial formation. The Alpha Legion Effrit Stealth Squad mentioned in Legion wore black but then Extermination mentions that the designation 'Effrit' appears to have been applied at different times to destroyers, headhunters, veterans and saboteurs, so it's not entirely clear if this was a more widespread thing. It's the Alphas anyway, who knows. All these cases seem to be spread throughout their respective legions, rather than something like the IF 1st company wearing black or IH Clan Morragul honour guard wearing some red. That is good news indeed. Those are all nice options for the box. AL is my favorite of those three Then you're in luck, the AL seem to have a pretty varied scheme in general. Extermination says 'Variously and across multiple time periods, the Alpha Legion has been witnessed in liveries in pale grey, gleaming steel, veridian, dull bronze, sable, indigo, amaranth and azure blue -- both in main and combination.' Tbh I think this is FW's way of accounting for the variations in how 'Eavy Metal painting and art have shown the AL over time. You get the same thing with the SoH green, it's notoriously fiddly to nail down and has appeared in lots of different shades, so Betrayal mentions their colours appearing darker and murkier as the great crusade wore on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Isn't the colouring more a side effect of the weapons they use than a deliberate different paint scheme? The World Eater example is, but the Ultramarines actually wear black armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfric_1066 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I think there could be a case for some of the Second Founding schemes being available to some extent on the basis that a captain would have his own heraldry which became chapter colours. Whether this is for a specific individual, for a command or other unit, or for a whole formation is your own decision. My own World Eaters are led by Kolchis, the Red Hand, and their armour is distinguished by painting the hands red on everything from power armour to dreadnoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4211831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The novamarine founder who is given a commendation by Roboute Guilliman wears the quartered colours the novamarines become known for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4212004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The Vakrah Jal had silver helmets right? So that's a different color scheme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315457-legion-subgroups-with-different-paint-schemes/page/2/#findComment-4212309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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