Redfinger Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I am sure this gets asked from time to time, but I am so unimpressed with the rhino chassis. I have been throwing around some concepts in my head and I am looking for inspiration! I want to start fresh. I am a pretty good scratch builder and I have casting equipment to reproduce any originals I make. As I understand it scratch builds are generally accepted. Anyway, anyone come across anything that is 40k-esq regarding rhinos? I already got the mono wheel design set for my bikes, now I just need to settle on the tanks. The bikes are a scifi cross between Ma.k, steam punk and the halo brute chopper, I can post once I have something to post about. Figuring on a design for the tanks is problematic. A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If we could have a picture of the bikes in question, that would be helpful in getting you what you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4214496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Perhaps you can take inspiration from these ; The Clouseau Rhino Project, or my Krixxus Assault Transport Hidden Content 3 View Front Left Rear Right Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkn0ise Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 It's still a Rhino chaissis, but the 'Repressor' once of forgeworld should also give some inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 It's still a Rhino chaissis, but the 'Repressor' once of forgeworld should also give some inspiration. I had forgot about the Repressor, that may be an option. That Clouseau Rhino is VERY cool, anyone know if he ever decided to produce it? A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I think some of your design will have to be informed by the philosophy of your Astartes. Do they need something to get them into close combat faster? Something to get them stealthily around the battlefield? Something to punch through a fortification? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 I think some of your design will have to be informed by the philosophy of your Astartes. Do they need something to get them into close combat faster? Something to get them stealthily around the battlefield? Something to punch through a fortification? This is a good point. They are a IF successor chapter, general philosophy is adaptability, bend but do not break kind of thing. There is a ceremony that takes place every few years, "The changing of the guard" where squads with in a company rotate between duties. Tac squads rotate to company Devestator duties, Dev's move on to Assault duty, ect...This is done to keep skills at their peak. I also adopted this fluff to help rationalize being able to field different chapters, for example if I want to run them vanilla, or as Blood Angels or as Space Wolves. So I guess to answer your question, the transport would need to be adaptable and easily redeployed. I did find this from CnC in Australia, it is their tactical response vehicle, it has the footprint of a rhino. Still on the fence about the design. http://www.miniaturescenery.com/ProductPage.asp?CODE=VH1TRV Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hmm, I have to say I'm on the fence about the 'Bat-Rhino' too. What about a hovercraft or other airborne platform? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4215991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hmm, I have to say I'm on the fence about the 'Bat-Rhino' too. What about a hovercraft or other airborne platform? Ya I had thought about a hover craft, I just am not sure it fits the Space Marine style? I imagine it would look like a larger beefier land speeder? How would you handle rules for dozen blades and modeling that? Your comment does have me thinking, maybe a "walker" style rhino could be cool, a mini AT-AT? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 This almost fits what I am looking for perfectly! http://mordian7th.blogspot.de/2010/01/anathema-assault-tank-part-1.html I just need to figure out how to "marine" it instead of imperial guard. Also, making sure my entry points are right. A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The fact that it hovers would be the dozer blades... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arendious Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The fact that it hovers would be the dozer blades... Or a modulation of the grav-field holding the thing up. Grav-manipulation technologies are all over the place in 40k, having a Grav-Dozer isn't far off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fun Fact: Hover Rhino's are fluff correct, there's even an image or two in Collected Visions. I'll throw up a pic when I get home. Here's some Google links; http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/5b/CustodesGrav-Rhino.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120111025130 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7b/GravRhinoGoldenThrone.png/revision/latest?cb=20120509042047 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/6f/Grav_Rhino_Sisters_of_Silence.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130929163235 As for the CnC one from Oz, a little work to convert to tracks and some plasticard to fill in the sides a bit smoother and it will "fit" better imo. I'm actually tempted to give it a go. Kinda resembles the Sicaran profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fun Fact: Hover Rhino's are fluff correct, there's even an image or two in Collected Visions. I'll throw up a pic when I get home. Here's some Google links; http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/5b/CustodesGrav-Rhino.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120111025130 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7b/GravRhinoGoldenThrone.png/revision/latest?cb=20120509042047 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/6f/Grav_Rhino_Sisters_of_Silence.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130929163235 As for the CnC one from Oz, a little work to convert to tracks and some plasticard to fill in the sides a bit smoother and it will "fit" better imo. I'm actually tempted to give it a go. Kinda resembles the Sicaran profile. Thanks for posting those images. All of this gives me some concepts to think on. A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4216824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think some of your design will have to be informed by the philosophy of your Astartes. Do they need something to get them into close combat faster? Something to get them stealthily around the battlefield? Something to punch through a fortification? This is a good point. They are a IF successor chapter, general philosophy is adaptability, bend but do not break kind of thing. There is a ceremony that takes place every few years, "The changing of the guard" where squads with in a company rotate between duties. Tac squads rotate to company Devestator duties, Dev's move on to Assault duty, ect...This is done to keep skills at their peak. I also adopted this fluff to help rationalize being able to field different chapters, for example if I want to run them vanilla, or as Blood Angels or as Space Wolves. So I guess to answer your question, the transport would need to be adaptable and easily redeployed. I did find this from CnC in Australia, it is their tactical response vehicle, it has the footprint of a rhino. Still on the fence about the design. http://www.miniaturescenery.com/ProductPage.asp?CODE=VH1TRV Cool website. I like the Penguin and the T/Dodo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4217817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Ok, not to get any hopes up prematurely... but this thread intrigues me. Not having tons of time to research, can anyone give me some brief background on the Clouseau? Was it an old GW design, or something created by a hobbyist? I've had many requests to do a full tank, but until now it seemed too ambitious... but not any longer. However, having been learning more about IP law recently, I've discovered that I must tread very lightly and avoid anything that too closely resembles a GW kit. With the Clouseau being neither a Land Raider nor an Rhino but a really nice middle ground, I think I could adjust the chassis a bit to make it even more distinct (full wrap-around tracks like a mini Spartan come to mind) and actually make it for production someday in the future. I suspect it's a silly question, but would that interest anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4218326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 AFAIK it is a Hobbyist project. And yes, a rhino varient does interest me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4218530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 I am actually inspired by the Clouseau variant as well. I am already drawing up a revamp of it that is a mix of the Clouseau and a Repressor. I will be casting it, but not intending to sell it. It will be a few weeks before I have a mock up of it. I am currently working on my alternate mono wheel bikes. A. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4218636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I am actually inspired by the Clouseau variant as well. I am already drawing up a revamp of it that is a mix of the Clouseau and a Repressor. I will be casting it, but not intending to sell it. It will be a few weeks before I have a mock up of it. I am currently working on my alternate mono wheel bikes. A. Please create a WIP thread for this, I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in following along. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315595-rhinorazorbackpredator-alternatives/#findComment-4219215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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