OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I have a problem - I am hugely indecisive when it comes to keeping the faith with one Legion. I've accepted it's something I just won't ever be able to do (which has helped weirdly!) However, this brings with it a new challenge - where to stop! I had it in my mind that i would do a number of small allied detachments to sate the hunger of painting a new colour, yet the focus of these allies flickers back and forth a great deal. And to be honest, they don't always work that well as allies. My main force is the Alpha Legion and I have a good size collection of those - still want some more bits but i'm good for now at 6000 points. Although as mentioned above, because the XX are not to be trusted, they dont ally well.... After this main force, I have small collections of Emperor's Children, Night Lords, Word Bearers, Salamanders and Raven Guard - all of which I seem to flit between as my intended second main force. I love the idea of a huge Word Bearer army at Calth at the moment, with cult and daemons in support of the Astartes and i'll throw myself on that as I did this weekend. Then, I'll get Sevatar out as I did last night and just look at him - lovingly, before wanting to buy more Night Raptors. Then it'll move to the other 3 eventually and then back round on the carousel. So, the question is - should I/do I need to focus to make sure I can actually play with some of these forces before I reach old age, or is making tiny amount of progress on multiple fronts worth it due to my shifting loyalties? (And yes I realise this is very XX legion behaviour!) I get myself so irritated with my indecision but no promises I ever make to myself seem to stick Suggestions are very very welcome! Even if it's just to salve my pounding indecisive head... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 21 legions is to many legions... I would focus on a playable force at a time if possible. Idk what the minimum size is for a reasonable force in 30k... I have some friends looking into 40k right now and I'm advising them on a 500 point CAD, that minimizes troops so they can include at least one cool fun unit from fa,hs,e, Sections... Get at least that much assembled and painted and when you get the urge, negotiate a pick up game with that, or even ally in and share the field with another player. Get table time in with that force and stay focused on the next playable force... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 21 Legions is too many legions. Anything less is perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Black_Out - this is an excellent (if money draining) point! Canadian_F_H - That is what I've been trying to do to be honest, and it does come in "bursts" rather than "paint one model then move on" frequency - it's just that my resin reserves have drained away now I have a baby and purchasing order now becomes important. I've still got bits to paint for all of the round robin legions so think i'm going to try and not buy anything for a bit (apart from the new box set of course!) whilst I'm working through that. Ultimately it would be epic to have some good size legions I can get out for games so maybe I just need to accept my decision making skills need improvement and chill out?! Makes it worse because my brother and close friend who both play are steadfastly loyal to one legion so think it makes it feel much worse haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 you can't have too many Legions :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'm sensing a theme here ladies and gents..... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 But realistically, I think this is an issue that so many of us in the HH realm face. Between characters, units, primarchs, and the different playstyles between each Legion there will always be a few that call out to us. For me it's Night Lords, Dark Angels and Blood Angels. My best advice would be to try and stick to just a few that really stand out to you. But if there's certain legion units or characters that stand out to you, don't be afraid to pick those up too. With the shattered legion rules releasing soon (from what I've read) you might actually be able to use them together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 My goal is to have atleast ZM forces for each Legion ... and a Mechanicum army ... and titans ... and knights ... and daemons ... and solar auxilia ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 You may only start another legion after assembling and painting approximately 100 000 Alpha Legionnaires, all of their vehicles, ships and support staff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 My goal is to have atleast ZM forces for each Legion ... and a Mechanicum army ... and titans ... and knights ... and daemons ... and solar auxilia ... :wub: ZM or kill teams is a great way to have some of each legion without breaking the bank. Granted those ZM tiles aren't exactly cheap themselves lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Depends what you want. I am heavily invested in my Sallies, even since before the Heresy. So I love building up a huge force. So I think 2 Legions is good, Sallies for main and one other for variety. That said, I also have a 3k list of Auxilia now so...I may not be the best to listen to when it comes to self control. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 You may only start another legion after assembling and painting approximately 100 000 Alpha Legionnaires, all of their vehicles, ships and support staff. Or are they all actually Alpha Legionnaires?.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 You may only start another legion after assembling and painting approximately 100 000 Alpha Legionnaires, all of their vehicles, ships and support staff. Or are they all actually Alpha Legionnaires?.... Dun dun duuuunnnn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 My goal is to have atleast ZM forces for each Legion ... and a Mechanicum army ... and titans ... and knights ... and daemons ... and solar auxilia ... ZM or kill teams is a great way to have some of each legion without breaking the bank. Granted those ZM tiles aren't exactly cheap themselves lol. Yep, I'm close to pulling the trigger with my mate on a ZM board, which I think offers some great possibilities. And the shattered legion rules and tactical strike could mean that the small detachments are not actually an issue. Basically, chill out, enjoy your hobby and paint what you want is the advice for myself I think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 My goal is to have atleast ZM forces for each Legion ... and a Mechanicum army ... and titans ... and knights ... and daemons ... and solar auxilia ... ZM or kill teams is a great way to have some of each legion without breaking the bank. Granted those ZM tiles aren't exactly cheap themselves lol. Yep, I'm close to pulling the trigger with my mate on a ZM board, which I think offers some great possibilities. And the shattered legion rules and tactical strike could mean that the small detachments are not actually an issue. Basically, chill out, enjoy your hobby and paint what you want is the advice for myself I think! yep, ZM games are pretty cool and the FW board tiles are awesome ^.^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I build forces based on how they play. My Sons of Horus play in a very particular way, and my Word Bearers play in a very different fashion. If I were to collect a third army, it would have to play differently, and so on, and so forth. Obviously you're only limited by fluff/unit choice/rites of war this way, but it helps keep clear cut themes and allows the assembly of forces that aren't going to get pointlessly large. Characters I just buy to paint as a treat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Just do whatever you want. Once you have enough warhammer in the cupboard to be able to run a 20 000 pts apocalypse campaign all by yourself, then you may have a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizur Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 If you do it right, one Legion is enough. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Once you have enough warhammer in the cupboard to be able to run a 20 000 pts apocalypse campaign all by yourself, then you may have a problem. Yeah, like finding someone else with a similar sized army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Once you have enough warhammer in the cupboard to be able to run a 20 000 pts apocalypse campaign all by yourself, then you may have a problem. Yeah, like finding someone else with a similar sized army. .....what if you could field both sides..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Once you have enough warhammer in the cupboard to be able to run a 20 000 pts apocalypse campaign all by yourself, then you may have a problem. Yeah, like finding someone else with a similar sized army. .....what if you could field both sides..... Then you can win every game that you play? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 My goal is to have atleast ZM forces for each Legion ... and a Mechanicum army ... and titans ... and knights ... and daemons ... and solar auxilia ... ZM or kill teams is a great way to have some of each legion without breaking the bank. Granted those ZM tiles aren't exactly cheap themselves lol. Keep hearing about this HH kill team - are there any offilcal dedicated (or fanmade) rules for 30k skirmish/kill team? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 For me that would be at least 36. One marine for each legion both pre- and post-primarch. And that's before I started working on the Brotherhood of the Lost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfOneThousand Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Keep hearing about this HH kill team - are there any offilcal dedicated (or fanmade) rules for 30k skirmish/kill team? . I'm not sure if it's the same as Tactical Strike (which is kill team-esque and apologies if you already know about that) as that's pretty good (again if you know sorry but it's in book 3) I have heard about Kill Zone - which i've not looked at but Masters of The Forge podcast look after that and I think it's a similar style; small skirmish type forces. that's for 40k but can't imagine why it wouldnt translate over. Other than that I've heard on the Overlords podcast that there is a cut-down version of Tactical Strike that Adepticon created for last year's event - again don't have a link (as I'm at work and they block most gaming forums and websites) but you might find some joy there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 The 30k Books do have a Kill Team equivalent, iirc, I think its in book 4? Strategic Raids? AFB right now so when I get home, if the question hasn't been answered I'll look through. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315614-how-many-legions-is-too-many-legions/#findComment-4214950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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