Caillum Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 So the 40k Open Day revealed to us that there would be a number of new Rites of War available in Book VI: Retaliation. Exciting stuff! The word is: - 10 new Rites of War available to everyone (giving us 15 all up), - 1 new Rite of War for each currently released Legion, plus 2 for each of the 3 in Retaliation (2 for each Legion), - 1 new Rite of War for Blackshields. - Rites of War are generally going to reflect the changing strategies as many of the Legions adapt to Astartes-on-Astartes combat. I really think they will have the biggest effect on the Heresy meta to date, giving every Legion new ways to field armies. A couple of examples were mentioned, i.e. the new Emperor's Children one would see Kakophoni as Troops, plus gaining Relentless. Also, Word Bearers gaining Gal Vorbak as Troops in their Rite. The generic ones give lots of amazing opportunities - the Eye of Horus Podcast said a "Unification Wars Veterans" Rite would be awesome, with lots of rad/Volkite weapons and additional Veteran Tactics. Or one where a Dreadnought has to be the Warlord, like Cassian Dracos. What do people think would be great new Rites? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 If they make a Dreadhead RoW...by the Emperor... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 pls Forgeworld give me a Templar Rite of War fer Imperial Fists , PLEASE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 I knew you'd be excited by this idea Slips! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I would like a useful one for my Sons please.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I want a Death Guard Rite of War centered around Destroyers and perhaps Grave Wardens. Make Destroyers Troops at a discounted price or something, remove the restrictions on the Moritat or allow to make a Moritat-esque Praetor, but limit it to where you cannot take Transports or Fast Attack or something. Perhaps Rad weapons affect allies, I don't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Hoping the death guard formations add in some close combat rules and maybe post fall psyker heavy rules that maybe lend us some help from good ole papa nurgle. p.s. More Phosphex on everything and everyone one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Carnelian Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Pre-Chaos Rite of War for the Word Bearers. I wanna see some rules for them during the period they served as loyal sons of the Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'm hoping there's a Destroyer-based RoW that's not limited to the Death Guard. And I'm saying that as a Death Guard player... so that the other Death Guard exclusive RoW we'll get means we have access to two new characterful RoWs instead of just the one :P But really, it would make sense. Then people could run forces based around Destroyers like the Ultramarines Nemesis chapter or the Word Bearers Star of Judgement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 ugh yes. A Xenocide/Extermination Cadre RoW Please @_@ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Death Guard ONLY. If you want Destroyers, you join our team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 It'll be nice to have a Night Lord rite that doesn't force you to take nearly 1,000 points of terror marines and limit you to one heavy support slot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The problem with Night Lords is their whole schtick is psychological warfare. That's extremely difficult to portray on the tabletop, especially against an enemy that isn't really affected by Fear (doesn't hurt the rule is garbage either). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Death Guard ONLY. If you want Destroyers, you join our team. I'm sorry? Whats That? I can't hear you over the Destroyer Emblems Present on my Imperial Fists Transfer Sheet. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Death Guard ONLY. If you want Destroyers, you join our team. I'm sorry? Whats That? I can't hear you over the Destroyer Emblems Present on my Imperial Fists Transfer Sheet. Crap... I know, that's why I can't wait for the new Death Guard decals. Can't understand why the original never came with them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I would like to see pre primarch rites of war Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The problem with Night Lords is their whole schtick is psychological warfare. That's extremely difficult to portray on the tabletop, especially against an enemy that isn't really affected by Fear (doesn't hurt the rule is garbage either). Yeah I get that, and honestly Terror Squads are good infantry, I just don't don't want to HAVE to take 3 of the damn things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Death Guard ONLY. If you want Destroyers, you join our team. I'm sorry? Whats That? I can't hear you over the Destroyer Emblems Present on my Imperial Fists Transfer Sheet.:P I think a generic Destroyer RoW will add more than a Death Guard Only one - the Reaping already adds optional rad grenades to every character! :) As for the transfers, Death Guard will get updated ones. The latest ones have had so much stuff on them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The problem with Night Lords is their whole schtick is psychological warfare. That's extremely difficult to portray on the tabletop, especially against an enemy that isn't really affected by Fear (doesn't hurt the rule is garbage either). Yeah I get that, and honestly Terror Squads are good infantry, I just don't don't want to HAVE to take 3 of the damn things. I think those restrictions (or caveats) are a bit ridiculous, I agree. Just like some limit you to one HQ or require you to take more than one. I personally like the idea of Terror Squads and would love to one day do a small force of them, but they are very cost prohibitive. Death Guard ONLY. If you want Destroyers, you join our team.I'm sorry? Whats That? I can't hear you over the Destroyer Emblems Present on my Imperial Fists Transfer Sheet. I think a generic Destroyer RoW will add more than a Death Guard Only one - the Reaping already adds optional rad grenades to every character! As for the transfers, Death Guard will get updated ones. The latest ones have had so much stuff on them! Yeah, it's been confirmed. There were pics of it at Open Day, looked pretty nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The problem with Night Lords is their whole schtick is psychological warfare. That's extremely difficult to portray on the tabletop, especially against an enemy that isn't really affected by Fear (doesn't hurt the rule is garbage either). Yeah I get that, and honestly Terror Squads are good infantry, I just don't don't want to HAVE to take 3 of the damn things. I love Terror Squads. Infiltrating Marines, all with Volkite Chargers? What's not to love? I can't wait to see the new Rites of War. Maybe there will be something providing additional flexibility in transport choices. Looking forward to seeing the new Ultra one as the existing one is garbage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 The price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 At least Terror Assault is quite a strong option regardless of its restrictions :) Not as big a deal for higher point games either. But yeah, for people running 1850-2250... I understand it's a problem Anyway, we do know one thing about the new RoWs, or at least the Legion-specific ones. They are not pre-Primarch or Great Crusade, and all reflect the changing strategies as many of the Legions adapt to Astartes-on-Astartes combat. So the Death Guard one will probably reflect the Poison Ships like the Mia Donna Mori heading out and and unleashing their forbidden arsenals. Probably Grave Warden troops with a small buff to them, like they can Overwatch or something, and maybe a chem-bombardment you can call in or something like that. I think it's also been stated that the new Sons of Horus RoW gives them all master-crafted or something on turn 1 to reflect Horus bringing in all the best supplies for his own Legion... Which sounds real nasty. I wonder what the restrictions are? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Anyway, we do know one thing about the new RoWs, or at least the Legion-specific ones. They are not pre-Primarch or Great Crusade, and all reflect the changing strategies as many of the Legions adapt to Astartes-on-Astartes combat. Yeah, this is pretty relevant - will add it to the 1st post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 ...a Row Giving Templar Ap2 Weapons (As much as I can hope I really hope this doesnt happen. They're deadly enough )?...one that liberates the Phalanx Warders from their ZM Uber-Niche? It'll be interesting to see what the RG get. Going to be hard to beat the utter smachdown Decapitation Strike & Maun deliver. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Since they'll reflect the changing progress of the legions as the war progresses, I imagine the new VIII legion one will look somthing like this: New Night Lord RoW: The Waiting • A detachment using this rite of war may only select units with the (infantry) type • All models in this detachment may not make any attack, movement, shooting, or assault moves. Instead they must simply sit on their bums and rot in depths of the nearest 1st Legion ship. • A detachment using this rite of war may never select Konrad Curze as a Lord of War. He's to busy being batman on Ultramar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315698-new-rites-of-war/#findComment-4217418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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