Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 So, I am looking for suggestions on a force of Blood Angels I want to build... I will have the Calth boxed set, 12 jetbikes, 3 rhinos(the older ones, not the newer ones), and a few(about 3) Cataphractii Termies. I was considering Pride of the Legion, but am a little indecisive. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Pride of the Legion is always a good way to start, but I would personally run two standard 10 man Tactical squads in Rhinos as you'll be able to use them as compulsory troops for your force as you build it up in future and as you might want to conserve points for more interesting units. One squad can definitely be customised into a Veteran unit, or perhaps two support squads if you can get your hands on a few extra weapons from the sets. This is all entirely up to you of course, 3 Veteran Tactical squads played correctly can be very effective :-) Blood Angels will be getting rules in the next book, apparently, so keep that in mind. Are you planning on any other vehicles aside from the Rhinos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Maybe a Sicaran. But then I have termies to consider as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 You can't go wrong with a Sicaran, Deredeo or Vindicator Laser Destroyers for your heavy support and for transport a Spartan or even a regular 40k Landraider if you already have one of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Was thinking Praetor w/4 Command Squad all on jetbikes and Volkites 10 x Veteran Tactical Squad w/ 2x meltaguns and a Sgt w/combi-melta in a Rhino 20 x Tactical Squad w/additional ccw, vexilla, nuncio vox 5 x Termies all with volkites, 2x powerfists, chainfist, 2x Lightning claws 6 x Jetbikes w/2 x volkites Sicaran This is all very generic, just a broad idea here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I echo the suggestion to start with 2 sets of 10 Tacs in Rhinos as your core. Pride is a bit prohibitive due to unit cost. As for your list, why not drop Pride and instead of the Vets play a Support Squad with Meltas or Plasmas? You need something to handle AV. If you face a wall of AV13, Knights or Spartans, you will have a hard time dislodging them in a timely manner, especially since most will be able to avoid those TDA. Also, maybe get a Phobos for the TDA to get them into melee faster? When you go up in points that is. Lastly, can Jetbikes get a sarge? If so, a Melta Bomb will not hurt (not hurt you that is :D). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Jetbikes units as a whole can be kitted with melta bombs. I left everything generic to try and leave plenty of room to pay for upgrades. Aren't 10 man tax squads really easy to pop? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The Rhino provides some protection. They are also far cheaper than Pride. Besides, if you encounter some real MEQ slicer like Mechanicum for example, even a 20man blob with FnP will not last much longer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 I suppose that is all true, will rework and see what I come up with. So no Pride of the Legion then? Just basic and build from there? At least until Blood Angels rules hit anyway right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Would I put the support squad in a rhino? What type of weapon load out? Full ten man? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I would build is pretty generic until the rules hit. However, you can also try Pride. The difference in models will not be as big. I think it will be best to try it out before you glue the models. Maybe you like Pride more than vanilla ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 As someone in a similar position to you (making lists using the box) u can say that pride makes for a weak list. Vets look great on paper but then you remember they're just 3+ dudes with bolters. Very expensive 3+ dudes with bolters. Tacs are better scoring units, plus they get the chance to unleash a fury making thier bolters even cooler. Jet bikes are ace, essentially being terminators with speed. Get a tank Preator in front to tank the nasty shots and add a primus medicaew(if they can take a Jet bike) to help :) Rhinos are great too, if the enemy have to spend an expensive tanks shooting to kill a 35pt box then you've won! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 They can. However, Praetor, Medicae and Command on Jetbikes approaches the 800pts mark. Expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'd just use a normal Jet bike squad, more shooty options anyway! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Why not no Command and just let them join a regular jetbikes squad? Reduce point costs? I was considering a praetor in termie armor in a unit of terminators with a Spartan... 2 tac squads in rhinos, support squad(maybe in a rhino with some form of AP2), unit of 6 bikes, unit of 3 bikes, and a Sicaran... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Sounds like a solid list. Fast and furioso ;) if you'll pardon the pun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks, bikes would have volkites and be loaded with meltabbombs with no Sgts. The termies would all have volkites as well, assault2 is just nice to have with them, did I mention they would be 7 strong? The real question here for me is how many in the support squad and with what weapon load out? Plasma guns or meltas? That would put the list at just around 2k depending on all the upgrades. Annnnnnd I would still have a Contemptor sitting around... Choices are rough! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 When making a list in the HH you need to consider 3 main things. 1: The ability for your units to project their strengths and get into position 2: Methods to deal with infantry, both numerous and elite 3: Methods to deal with Armour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 1. Bikes, Spartan, and rhinos 2. Sicaran, volkites terminators, plasma/Meltagun armed support squads 3. Meltabomb carrying jetbikes, termies with power/chainfists, Spartan with Lascannons, support squad as in option 2 Obviously I can alter some things, like put multimeltas in the bikes for anti armor projection or Volkites for more infantry killing. With the meltabombs, getting into CC to use them shouldn't be too difficult for them what with that speed. Or am I being too optimistic? I figure the list is relatively flexible and has a little something for everyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Spartan and Rhinos are great, as is the Sicaran. Jetbikes are fun to use, they can be tricky but they can also get the job done if played well. An easy to include unit, and one that is relatively cheap to buy, is the Rapier Quad Mortar. A few of these can bolster an army with potent Anti-Tank and Anti-Infantry firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armond Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Biggest prob I have with the rapier stuff is their lack of protection based on what list I am making. I have no unit staying back to guard them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315818-suggestions-on-blood-angels/#findComment-4220643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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