LongGone Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Thank you, Jeebus, somebody said it. While I know there's a lot of gra(e)y area in the fluff, there really is no need to read the lines between the lines underneath the lines between the other lines located between some other lines. British dudes made it. The place they reference a lot that has a name similar to an old timey name of the UK...it's prolly the UK. And even if it's not, they'll probably never clarify it anyway (see intentional gray area mentioned earlier). And that's perfectly ok, as it gives us room to insert our own fluff. *shaves face with Occum's Razor* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4223034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Sorry. (no sarcasm intended) I was involved with the big secret gathering/uncovering shenanigans 343 was doing on the sideline for Halo 4, where every step had layers-upon-layers of detail to sift through before you even saw a piece of the puzzle. I now have a tendency to expect more to things than are immediately obviously. I'll see something that someone has created and say "there has to be more to this", reading too far into things is just part of my nature now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4223040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Pariah, for what it's worth I was finding your speculation quite interesting and fun to think about. Castra = Camp = City btw, I think that cod-Latin explanation is far more likely than the Portuguese you mentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4223072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Why do people try to read into it too much? Well, for some of us, it's fun. I personally like this "Albia is Alaska/British Colombia" theory a lot even if there's probably no authorial intent behind it. This thread was a great read, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4223224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'm lost now lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4223390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasil_(mythical_island) Uh, this is apparently Hy Brasil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Huh. That's unexpected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I simply can't accept Albia as post England...because that means I'd have to read all Death Gaurd voices with a Cockney accent :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I simply can't accept Albia as post England...because that means I'd have to read all Death Gaurd voices with a Cockney accent You know, cockney isn't isn't the only accent here, brother. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 There's Welsh. So it can be post-Apoc Cardiff. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I simply can't accept Albia as post England...because that means I'd have to read all Death Gaurd voices with a Cockney accent You know, cockney isn't isn't the only accent here, brother. :lol: "U wot m8???" ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 That's not strictly cockney. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Heremes Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I may be biased as I am Canadian and my two favourite traitor legions are death guard and night lords. That being said, I approve of this idea :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 You know, cockney isn't isn't the only accent here, brother. :lol: And no Californians sound like stoned Keanu Reeves in bright '90s clothing, but that doesn't stop it being from being parodied freaking everywhere. You can all live with your LOADS O' MOANEH accent. :p That new possibility of Hy Brasil is exactly what Humanity loves to do, and what I was referencing in an earlier post. When the Atlantic Ocean boiled away, when Humanity later began building a population center out in its evaporated depths, of course they'd take that mythical name for themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I simply can't accept Albia as post England...because that means I'd have to read all Death Gaurd voices with a Cockney accent I prefer Scottish myself. Although the Astartes from Barbarus I imagine have an Eastern European accent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sorry. (no sarcasm intended) I was involved with the big secret gathering/uncovering shenanigans 343 was doing on the sideline for Halo 4, where every step had layers-upon-layers of detail to sift through before you even saw a piece of the puzzle. I now have a tendency to expect more to things than are immediately obviously. I'll see something that someone has created and say "there has to be more to this", reading too far into things is just part of my nature now. Nothing wrong with that what-so-ever mate. Games workshop "history" is often a little tongue in cheek to be fair and while the Black Library writers do work hard on the details along with Forge World there are going to be vague and brief references that they may only have a vague idea of what they are implying. To me they seem like cool little off hand comments or gestures and I think that this has become something associated with the Heresy as a whole now. Little fan boy moments of excitement for the reader which as really fun. Sometimes you can say more by revealing less. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 That's not strictly cockney. :lol: To be fair, I can see the intimidation factor of Cockney Death Guard... Mortarion advanced on the hapless young Imperial, grabbing his throat and lifting him off the floor. He spoke, his foul breath stifling, a pale rage in his eyes; "ARE YOU MUGGIN' ME OFF?!" "b-b-beg pardon, sir?!" Stammered the luckless Imperial, sweat rolling down his cheek. "NAH, LET'S AVE IT RIGHT. YOU WERE TRYIN TO MAKE ME LOOK THE :cuss IN FRONT OF ALL MY PALS! I SHOULD OPEN YOU UP, SUNSHINE!" :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Oh Good Lord... Ray Winstone as Mortarion & Plan B as Typhon. 30K's answer to the Sweeney :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasil_(mythical_island) Uh, this is apparently Hy Brasil. The mythical Hy Brasil, sure, but isn't the 30k version confirmed as being on the south American continent? In this case the confirmed geographical location doesn't leave much room for speculation, the point is fixed and even my enthusiasm for wild theories can't alter that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Aside from an unsourced mention of inspiration, I don't think it's truly been confirmed. Which has huge implications for the Unifications Wars, fluffwise. Edit - Having spent a little longer than a couple of seconds digging around, Sao Paol may have been mentioned - which would imply Brazil has had a rebranding. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Well, if the location isn't confirmed ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Aside from an unsourced mention of inspiration, I don't think it's truly been confirmed. Which has huge implications for the Unifications Wars, fluffwise. Blood Game gives us this: "Hy Brasil, the most powerful of all the Sud Merican cantons" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 That's what I thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Yeah. I blame hasty research for my post. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Mk.231 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 My own sins prevent me throwing any stones in regards to that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315910-did-we-get-it-wrong-about-albia/page/2/#findComment-4224908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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